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Tyler

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@AssassinsMace bro since the author is an Indian you can sense the saltiness,

Its okay for the US to do FON in the SCS cause China is a bully.

Take America's so-called freedom of navigation operations, known as FONOPs. Such operations are best known in the South China Sea, where an expansionist China has redrawn the geopolitical map without firing a shot or incurring any international costs. U.S. FONOPs against partner countries, however, have drawn little attention.

At a time when China's actions against the Philippines highlight its muscular revisionism in the South China Sea, the U.S. recently triggered a diplomatic incident with friendly India by conducting a FONOP in India's exclusive economic zone. Under the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS), any country's EEZ extends to 200 nautical miles (370 km).

But its not okay in the Indian Ocean cause India is benign.

India, unlike China, has not sought to push its borders far out into international waters, or build artificial islands, or militarize the seas around it, or restrict freedom of navigation. Rather, India's "excessive maritime claims," as alleged by Washington, center on long-standing differences between Western maritime powers and many coastal countries over foreign military activities in their respective EEZs.

The U.S. claimed its action in India's EEZ was "consistent with international law." Its general reference to international law, rather than to the specific law of the sea, was deliberate -- to help obscure the fact that it has not acceded to UNCLOS, the global "constitution for the oceans" that entered into force almost 27 years ago. The irony is that the U.S. seeks to assert a claimed right under an international treaty that it has refused to ratify.

In fact, the FONOP against India is just the latest in a series of such U.S. actions targeting friends and foes. For example, in the 11-month period up to September 2020, the U.S. said its unilateral naval actions challenged the "excessive maritime claims" of 19 claimant states.

India should know that what is good for the gander is good for the goose.
Why didn't the Indians send their powerful warships and CV for repelling the US invasion of their economic zone?
 

plawolf

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True, China can easily do it just like what Russia have done. BUT, it doesn't mean there will be no consequences. Exceptionalism is the reason.

Unfortunately not, because you are forgetting about the racial element that is at the core of western objections and prejudice towards China’s rise.

If Russia does something shady, the west will go, hehe, Ruskies gunna like Ruskies.

If China did the same thing, it would be like the end of the world if they didn’t roll it back and make China pay an overwhelming price for daring to step out of line.

That is because the Russians are white, while the Chinese are not.
 

ansy1968

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Unfortunately not, because you are forgetting about the racial element that is at the core of western objections and prejudice towards China’s rise.

If Russia does something shady, the west will go, hehe, Ruskies gunna like Ruskies.

If China did the same thing, it would be like the end of the world if they didn’t roll it back and make China pay an overwhelming price for daring to step out of line.

That is because the Russians are white, while the Chinese are not.
@plawolf or the Russian can also fight dirty as shown in the second world war against the German, while the Chinese are not an example the Korean War.
 

emblem21

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@AssassinsMace bro since the author is an Indian you can sense the saltiness,

Its okay for the US to do FON in the SCS cause China is a bully.

Take America's so-called freedom of navigation operations, known as FONOPs. Such operations are best known in the South China Sea, where an expansionist China has redrawn the geopolitical map without firing a shot or incurring any international costs. U.S. FONOPs against partner countries, however, have drawn little attention.

At a time when China's actions against the Philippines highlight its muscular revisionism in the South China Sea, the U.S. recently triggered a diplomatic incident with friendly India by conducting a FONOP in India's exclusive economic zone. Under the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS), any country's EEZ extends to 200 nautical miles (370 km).

But its not okay in the Indian Ocean cause India is benign.

India, unlike China, has not sought to push its borders far out into international waters, or build artificial islands, or militarize the seas around it, or restrict freedom of navigation. Rather, India's "excessive maritime claims," as alleged by Washington, center on long-standing differences between Western maritime powers and many coastal countries over foreign military activities in their respective EEZs.

The U.S. claimed its action in India's EEZ was "consistent with international law." Its general reference to international law, rather than to the specific law of the sea, was deliberate -- to help obscure the fact that it has not acceded to UNCLOS, the global "constitution for the oceans" that entered into force almost 27 years ago. The irony is that the U.S. seeks to assert a claimed right under an international treaty that it has refused to ratify.

In fact, the FONOP against India is just the latest in a series of such U.S. actions targeting friends and foes. For example, in the 11-month period up to September 2020, the U.S. said its unilateral naval actions challenged the "excessive maritime claims" of 19 claimant states.

India should know that what is good for the gander is good for the goose.
Better just let the coronavirus do it’s job in India then since with the current infection rate ( of which the infect and death are far higher because of the fact that India isn’t capable or wants to count the real numbers because they don’t want to look bad compared to China), the entire nation is going to get screwed over and wiped out given that well, they simply don’t care any more. It is not in China’s interest to save that nation since really, they have asked for trouble and now they got it. Pity the fact that India didn’t have to go down this path but the moment they joined the USA, well like the USA, they are going to be quite screwed and there entire caste system is literally going to be the death of them
 

hashtagpls

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Better just let the coronavirus do it’s job in India then since with the current infection rate ( of which the infect and death are far higher because of the fact that India isn’t capable or wants to count the real numbers because they don’t want to look bad compared to China), the entire nation is going to get screwed over and wiped out given that well, they simply don’t care any more. It is not in China’s interest to save that nation since really, they have asked for trouble and now they got it. Pity the fact that India didn’t have to go down this path but the moment they joined the USA, well like the USA, they are going to be quite screwed and there entire caste system is literally going to be the death of them
Agreed, but it pisses me off that the Indians most responsible are not going to be the ones in India itself when the shit really hits the fan; Indian elites sequester their families and wealth in the anglosphere like the UK and the US and Australia. They must also pay their karmic dues for their sins.
 

emblem21

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Agreed, but it pisses me off that the Indians most responsible are not going to be the ones in India itself when the shit really hits the fan; Indian elites sequester their families and wealth in the anglosphere like the UK and the US and Australia. They must also pay their karmic dues for their sins.
Well look on the bright side, India is surround by a lot of nations that do not like India so to be truthful, this may present opportunities for neighbouring countries to voice their displeasure of India more strongly. To be honest, if a massive amount of people die in India because they let the pandemic go nuts, then their neighbours are not likely to let them off lightly
 

t2contra

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Interview: U.S. expert says Japan can't release contaminated water until nuclides at "non-detectable levels"​

Source: Xinhua| 2021-04-22 06:10:16|Editor: huaxia

People rally to protest against the Japanese government's decision to discharge contaminated radioactive wastewater in Fukushima Prefecture into the sea, in Tokyo, capital of Japan, April 13, 2021. (Xinhua/Du Xiaoyi)
"The ecological impact of this sort of chronic release of radioactive waste into the North Pacific may be considerable," U.S. biologist Rick Steiner said. "The risk is entirely avoidable by using long-term storage on shore, and best available technology treatment systems."

WASHINGTON, April 21 (Xinhua) -- "Not one drop" of Japan's Fukushima radioactively contaminated water should be released until the world is convinced that the water has been treated to remove nuclides to "non-detectable levels", a prominent U.S. marine conservation biologist told Xinhua in an interview on Wednesday.

The Japanese government announced last week it had decided to discharge contaminated radioactive wastewater in Fukushima Prefecture into the sea.

"Prior to any marine discharge, the world deserves to know exactly what radioisotopes are in the wastewater, in what concentrations, and that all of the water has been treated with best available technology methods to remove all radionuclides to non-detectable levels," said Rick Steiner, former professor of marine conservation at the University of Alaska.

As of Dec. 31, 2019, 73 percent of the nuclear wastewater exceeded Japan's discharge standards after treatment by an advanced liquid processing system (ALPS) capable of removing most contaminants, according to a report from an organization researching the treatment of wastewater from the Fukushima nuclear accident.

The Tokyo Electric Power Company (TEPCO), the operator handling wastewater from the Fukushima nuclear accident, has a record of covering up and falsifying information, according to media reports.

"TEPCO and the government of Japan have been somewhat non-transparent with the Fukushima issue," Steiner told Xinhua.
He said Japan's planned release is a "spectacularly bad idea" for a number of reasons -- it would expose marine ecosystems across the North Pacific to risk; it is unnecessary, as the long-term storage option is reasonable and prudent; it is likely illegal under international law; and it is exceptionally unethical.

"We can no longer accept dumping hazardous industrial wastes into our one global ocean," said Steiner, who consults for the United Nations, governments and NGOs on marine environmental issues.

"As far as ecological risk, so far we simply don't know exactly what radionuclides and in what concentrations are in the tanks, but we know there is radioactive cesium-137, tritium, Carbon-14, Cobalt-60, Strontium-90, Iodine-129, and over 50 other nuclides. Some of this may have been removed, some not," Steiner noted.

"We need to know," he stressed.

The international community should convene an international scientific and technological commission, agreed by the Japanese government, to provide independent scientific oversight of all aspects of the Fukushima cleanup, including the wastewater issue, Steiner said.

This international group should operate independently of the International Atomic Energy Agency, he added.
According to Steiner, if the contaminated water is held for another 15 to 30 years, the radioactive tritium will decay by 50 percent to 75 percent. This will give time to treat the contaminated water effectively.

Japan's decision to dump wastewater into sea has triggered opposition from the Japanese public and global environmental groups. It has also raised concerns from neighboring countries about a possible impact on human health and fishery businesses.

"The ecological impact of this sort of chronic release of radioactive waste into the North Pacific may be considerable," Steiner said.
Some of the contaminants will enter living organisms, and some of these can cause reproductive impairment, cellular damage, genetic injury, and cancers, he explained.

"The risk is entirely avoidable by using long-term storage on shore, and best available technology treatment systems," Steiner noted.
 

Petrolicious88

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The Pakistani Taliban, a militant group known as Tehreek e Taliban Pakistan (TTP) claimed responsibility for the bombing.

Just like in the 80's, there is no hesitation that the CIA is 100% behind the latest attack. The CIA has had 40 years of relations with the Taliban back to the Soviet days, including with the esteemed agent Osama Bin Ladin.
Exactly. Destabilize the B&R projects In Pakistan. Create instability for the Chinese.
 

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