Book - "Dragon's Wings" by Andreas Rupprecht

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Interestingly the PLAAF had previously considered a 4-engined additional range version of their H-6 (designated the H-6I) and once even proposed a new 4-engine/6-engine called the H-8/H-8II. If built the H-8/H-8II would've probably been comparable with the Boeing B-52 and the Tupolev TU-95 and would give China intercontinental-bombing capabilities. Unfortunately for some reason none of them ever left the drawing board, so China is still stuck with their two-engined H-6 in 2020.
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The silver bomber is the H-6I, the one with green stripes is the H-8 while the yellow one is the H-6II.

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There are also a ton of proposed PLAAF aircraft included in this picture. I can recognize the J-9 as the plane with numbers on the nose in the bottom-left corner but I can't recognize the rest. Can anyone here recognize all of the planes in this picture?

So after I spent some time searching the internet, I've finally found the answer :D
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So from top to bottom:
1. Nanchang Q-5乙 (乙, pronounced "yi", is similar to the English designation system of a,b,c,d,e... So Nanchang Q-5乙 is basically Nanchang Q-5B)
2. Xian H-6I (main proposal)
3. Nanchang Q-6
4. Xian H-7 (later developed into JH-7)
5. Xian H-6II (secondary proposal)
6. Shenyang DF(DongFeng)-107
7. Shenyang DF(DongFeng)-113
8. Shenyang J-11 (old designation)
9. Nanchang J-12
10. Shenyang J-13 design proposal 1
11. Chengdu J-9 design proposal 4
12. Shenyang J-13 design proposal 2
13. Shenyang J-10 (old designation): I'm not really sure about this one because it isn't matching what I'm finding on the internet.
Edit: So apparently the writer has made a mistake and it's not the old designation of the J-10 but an earlier proposal of the J-13 instead.
 
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So after I spent some time searching the internet, I've finally found the answer :D
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So from top to bottom:
1. Nanchang Q-5乙 (乙, pronounced "yi", is similar to the English designation system of a,b,c,d,e... So Nanchang Q-5乙 is basically Nanchang Q-5B)
2. Xian H-6I (main proposal)
3. Nanchang Q-6
4. Xian H-7 (later developed into JH-7)
5. Xian H-6II (secondary proposal)
6. Shenyang DF(DongFeng)-107
7. Shenyang DF(DongFeng)-113
8. Shenyang J-11 (old designation)
9. Nanchang J-12
10. Shenyang J-13 design proposal 1
11. Chengdu J-9 design proposal 4
12. Shenyang J-13 design proposal 2
13. Shenyang J-10 (old designation): I'm not really sure about this one because it isn't matching what I'm finding on the internet.


Indeed as noted in the H-6-thread, you re-found my old artwork or better to say the artworks for my second book on Chinese projects.
As for the J-10 from SAC it is indeed different since it was only based on written reports before the first Chinese drawings appeared.
 

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Indeed as noted in the H-6-thread, you re-found my old artwork or better to say the artworks for my second book on Chinese projects.
As for the J-10 from SAC it is indeed different since it was only based on written reports before the first Chinese drawings appeared.
So it appears my:

13. Shenyang J-10 (old designation): I'm not really sure about this one because it isn't matching what I'm finding on the internet.

...is a mistake and the drawing in the picture is yet another proposed design of the J-13.

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Apparently the old J-10 was designed after analyzing crashed wrecks of F-111s and it is basically and F-111 with canards.
Long article of proposed PLAAF aircraft that never went into service:
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Article is in Chinese though.

p.s. I accidentally saw you on secretprojects.co.uk lol
 

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So it appears my:

13. Shenyang J-10 (old designation): I'm not really sure about this one because it isn't matching what I'm finding on the internet.

...is a mistake and the drawing in the picture is yet another proposed design of the J-13.

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Apparently the old J-10 was designed after analyzing crashed wrecks of F-111s and it is basically and F-111 with canards.
Long article of proposed PLAAF aircraft that never went into service:
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Article is in Chinese though.

p.s. I accidentally saw you on secretprojects.co.uk lol


No, this J-10 is a plain fan-made what if posted in a modelling forum and made of a 1/48 scale Mirage 2000 (front) mated to a 1/72 F-11s.
The true J-10 was something like this:

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tupolevtu144

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No, this J-10 is a plain fan-made what if posted in a modelling forum and made of a 1/48 scale Mirage 2000 (front) mated to a 1/72 F-11s.
The true J-10 was something like this:

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Are you sure this is the J-10? From the many Chinese sources that I am reading the J-10 is a variable-swing wing aircraft with canards. It also had inlet cones instead of intake ramps. Its development started in 1968 by Shenyang (601 Design Institute) and Beijing University of Aeronautics and Astronautics with the help of studying salvaged examples of crashed F-111s in Vietnam. In the end the J-10 was cancelled in 1980 due to undisclosed reasons. Here is one of the website:
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Edit: The plane that you are posting is called "Mission 3", and from what I'm reading it is designed as an interceptor for the SR-71:
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