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Storm bombardier

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7 crashes for Saudi's CH-4 drones since 2021 what is the main reason behind these ,is it because of lack of training or CH-4 Failure to defend itself ?

Please note i am asking this question only for educational purposes and by no mean i am trying to troll!
 

ougoah

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7 crashes for Saudi's CH-4 drones since 2021 what is the main reason behind these ,is it because of lack of training or CH-4 Failure to defend itself ?

Please note i am asking this question only for educational purposes and by no mean i am trying to troll!

Saudis have been at war for the last few years with several nations/groups. Their equipments being used to the fullest. I mean Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and Israel have been losing top tier tanks (leopard 2s, M1s, and merkava 4s respectively) to various groups financed by adversarial nations or in Saudi's case, Yemeni forces.

All of them have been losing drones in the dozens because when you go to war you lose equipment. Israel lost an f-16 shot down by adversary forces. Turkey lost more drones than observers can count.

American made drones also dropping everywhere like flies. It's what happens with war. You end up using equipment. I mean India loses dozens of aircraft every year during peacetime. Not trying to troll but just putting it into perspective. So far the CH-4 drones have been some of the best performers compared to American, Israeli, and Turkish counterparts participating in similar or the same conflicts.

As for losing 7 drones in one year, Saudi operations have really ramped up. They're not entirely careful with his they use drones. For example they fly drones well within missile range. That's their choice and they seem to operate like they have a lot of funding which they certainly sort of do. So essentially a combination of being at war with at least two adversaries - Yemen and Iran (with various groups) and choosing to operate their equipment particularly unmanned ones with a bit less care for whether it gets attacked or not.

Maybe with the way they choose to operate their unmanned drones, if they were operating indian ones (not that India has even been able to make any), they would have lost 70 indian drones instead of 7.
 

AndrewS

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7 crashes for Saudi's CH-4 drones since 2021 what is the main reason behind these ,is it because of lack of training or CH-4 Failure to defend itself ?

Please note i am asking this question only for educational purposes and by no mean i am trying to troll!

It also goes back to this class of drones being disposable.

Given that a CH-4 only costs $4 Million, that is less than a single M1 Abrahms tank for example.
 

Fergus

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Do we have any idea how many Z-20s are in service at this point? I heard awhile back that it's approaching 100 units.
 

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What plane is it at the start of the video?

Reportedly happened at Shangqiu Henan. Two pilots ejected. One is caucasian and is referred to by the other pilot as "教员" or trainer.
 

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What plane is it at the start of the video?

Reportedly happened at Shangqiu Henan. Two pilots ejected. One is caucasian and is referred to by the other pilot as "教员" or trainer.

The comments do raise a good question, though. How did the two pilots end up so close to each other after ejection, assuming that one didn't crawl to the other's location? Seems fishy.
 

test1979

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The comments do raise a good question, though. How did the two pilots end up so close to each other after ejection, assuming that one didn't crawl to the other's location? Seems fishy.
From what I heard on the phone from the Chinese pilot, the white man was supposed to be an instructor, which means it was probably a minority soldier and not a foreigner. His foot was broken and unable to move.
 

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