StarTram and other non conventional space launches

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    StarTram! Sounds exciting. Like a Science fiction series. But if your name is Elon Musk you call it Hyperloop and well.
    PandoMonthly Presents: A Fireside Chat with Elon Musk | PandoDaily

    Startram promises to make Space launches cheaper and blow the doors off the fastest maglev trains anywhere.
    A Train to Space: All Aboard the 20,000-Mile-Per-Hour Low-Earth-Orbit Express | Popular Science

    How does Elon Musk’s SF-to-LA-in-30-minutes Hyperloop work? | ExtremeTech

    The Idea is not entirely Original go back to the early early 20th and one of the first movies was about a group of scientist who are fired in a cannon to the moon.
     
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    First time hearing this acoustic levitation concept. Is it more efficient than magnetic levitation?
     
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    Not Sure. Acoustic is still new and at such a scale and application untested. The Idea is based on a advanced application of Ultrasound. generate a sound at the right frequency a objects can be propelled. I find it funny that form a science fiction perspective this is Dr. Who tech. The Sonic Screwdriver
     
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    Hyperloop | Blog | Tesla Motors
    Tesla is owned by Musk and has Graphic art of the Hyperloop.
    http://www.teslamotors.com/sites/default/files/blog_images/hyperloop-alpha.pdf
     
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    I just read about that and it looks doable. The thing is does it has to be levitated first in order for the air pressure to easily accelerate the vehicles inside the tube? Since it's solar there's plenty of energy.
     
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    A very interesting project. And the technology is here to make it happen.

    He does need to address the safety issues, and I bet he has not factored in the environmental impact studies which will add 100s of millions to the cost.

    However, due to the economic black hole that California is, and due to potential litigation and insurance issues (again which will add more hundreds of millions of dollars to the cost), I expect the project will not be taken up at any time in the near future.

    IOW, the technology could be done, and it could easily be made more safe (at more cost), but due to environmental concerns, legal concerns, financial concerns, and special interest groups the pols will line up for their own projects and against this one...it probably will not happen.
     
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    I agreed Jeff, on top of that the land needed to be purchase to build it as well. I wouldn't give up hope on it yet. If Elon Musk can sell it and convince the both the public and government sector that it's doable and creates lots of jobs and boost the local economy, than it's doable. :)
     
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    I saw a partial interview with Elon Musk today. He's not planning to be involve in this project since he has Tesla and Space X to deal with. He's throwing out this idea and his study for someone else to tackle. Interesting since he's getting all this attention but if people remember this idea was already out there from a Colorado company a few years ago and posted in here. I wonder if there's some intellectual property issue which is why Elon Musk is not getting involved. It's not his idea so no real glory.
     
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    Pnumatic trams have been tried before. In New York city for example a short lived short length of pnumatic subway was tested but proved inpractical when compared to electric due to low speeds and pressure issues. (Remember the tunnel in Ghostbusters 2 that was a reproduction of the test tunnel)
    Friction is the enemy, contact between the tram and the tunnel or rails will slow the tram. If you try to push the speed, stress them both. By breaking contact with the surface the speed option opens up as friction becomes less an issue.
    To be honest I am mostly posting hyperloop because it has potential for use as a orbital launch system and Musk as we all know is big in private space.
     
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