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'The Last Jedi's Gargantuan $151M 2nd Weekend Plunge Is An Epic Hollywood Choke

ForbesDecember 25, 2017


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'The Last Jedi's Gargantuan $151M 2nd Weekend Plunge Is An Epic Hollywood Choke
Because no other movie has come anywhere close to the picture’s $151.5 million 2nd weekend box office razing, there’s no movie comparison that gives its record-obliterating failure proper context. To begin to appreciate the epic nature of the Last Jedi catastrophe, consider the 9.2 magnitude megathrust 1964 Good Friday earthquake near Anchorage, Alaska. The $171 million expense of fighting the fire is fairly close to the amount it cost Disney/Lucasfilm (NYSE:DIS) to produce The Last Jedi. It may seem odd to compare a movie that has earned nearly $400 million in domestic box office receipts to such giant calamities, but that total represents a tremendous shortfall relative to expectations.
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Looks like the TLJ is losing the Force.:p:D
Here's a quote from anonymous fan questions in regards to the plot that Disney is doing to the Star Wars series:

From an anonymous fan with spot on analysis:
"Twenty questions from The Force Awakens that Last Jedi totally ignores. If you're going to make a sequel, shouldn't you continue the story your predecessor began? This is why The Last Jedi sucks so much:

1. Who was the old man at the beginning of TFA? How did he have a map to Luke?
2. Why was there a map to Luke? Who made it? Doesn't its existence mean Luke wanted to be found?
3. How does Rey know how to fly a spaceship like the Falcon better than professionally-trained Stormtrooper pilots?
4. Wasn't it too coincidental that Han was flying in the very orbit of the planet where the Falcon was being kept? Was he in fact keeping an eye on Rey from afar? Why would he ask a stranger to be his co-pilot after just meeting her?
5. How does Rey know the Wookie language?
6. Why did Snoke emphasize that BB8 was hiding with "a girl?" Why did Kylo react the way he did by saying "What Girl?" Doesn't that imply they know of her and her powers already?
7. Why does Finn defect after being trained his whole life as a Stormtrooper? Is he Force-sensitive?
8. Where did Snoke come from? How do Luke, Leia, and Han know him? Why did they let him influence Ben Solo? How could he influence Ben to turn against his own parents and family? If Han and Leia knew Snoke was manipulating Ben, why did Luke only learn of his evil mind that one night and try to murder him?
9. Where did this First Order come from? Why is the galaxy welcoming another authoritarian dictatorship after clearly celebrating the birth of a new democracy at the end of RotJ?
10. Why did Leia's Resistance have to be so small and on the down-low? Why couldn't they openly declare themselves an army of the New Republic fighting the potential rise of a new evil empire?
11. What happened to the Knights of Ren? Weren't they supposed to help overthrow Luke?
12. Why did Captain Phasma give up so easily at the first hint of danger?
13. How does Rey know the Jedi mind trick?
14. What is Kylo's obsession with Darth Vader? Why would he admire Vader when he knows from his own parents and uncle that Anakin Skywalker turned back to the light? What about Vader is he trying to emulate?
15. How did Maz get Luke's original lightsaber?
16. What's up with the scene where Maz asks Han, "So who's the girl?" and Han looks her in the eye and the scene cuts away. Further implication that he knows something secret about Rey.
16. If Rey is just a nobody, then why would Luke's lightsaber "call" to her? Why does Rey have the vision when she touches the lightsaber? Why is Obi Wan's voice a part of that vision?
17. Why does Leia act like she knows Rey when they first meet? A general hugging a perfect stranger? Weird.
18. Why does C3PO have the red arm that he's so self-conscious about?
19. Why does R2D2 awaken the moment Rey is in his presence?
20. Why did Luke run away? Help me if I've missed anything. God this movie sucks as a sequel. But, hey, it had good cinematography, right? (vomit)"
 

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Looks like the TLJ is losing the Force.:p:D
Here's a quote from anonymous fan questions in regards to the plot that Disney is doing to the Star Wars series:

From an anonymous fan with spot on analysis:
"Twenty questions from The Force Awakens that Last Jedi totally ignores. If you're going to make a sequel, shouldn't you continue the story your predecessor began? This is why The Last Jedi sucks so much:

1. Who was the old man at the beginning of TFA? How did he have a map to Luke?
2. Why was there a map to Luke? Who made it? Doesn't its existence mean Luke wanted to be found?
3. How does Rey know how to fly a spaceship like the Falcon better than professionally-trained Stormtrooper pilots?
4. Wasn't it too coincidental that Han was flying in the very orbit of the planet where the Falcon was being kept? Was he in fact keeping an eye on Rey from afar? Why would he ask a stranger to be his co-pilot after just meeting her?
5. How does Rey know the Wookie language?
6. Why did Snoke emphasize that BB8 was hiding with "a girl?" Why did Kylo react the way he did by saying "What Girl?" Doesn't that imply they know of her and her powers already?
7. Why does Finn defect after being trained his whole life as a Stormtrooper? Is he Force-sensitive?
8. Where did Snoke come from? How do Luke, Leia, and Han know him? Why did they let him influence Ben Solo? How could he influence Ben to turn against his own parents and family? If Han and Leia knew Snoke was manipulating Ben, why did Luke only learn of his evil mind that one night and try to murder him?
9. Where did this First Order come from? Why is the galaxy welcoming another authoritarian dictatorship after clearly celebrating the birth of a new democracy at the end of RotJ?
10. Why did Leia's Resistance have to be so small and on the down-low? Why couldn't they openly declare themselves an army of the New Republic fighting the potential rise of a new evil empire?
11. What happened to the Knights of Ren? Weren't they supposed to help overthrow Luke?
12. Why did Captain Phasma give up so easily at the first hint of danger?
13. How does Rey know the Jedi mind trick?
14. What is Kylo's obsession with Darth Vader? Why would he admire Vader when he knows from his own parents and uncle that Anakin Skywalker turned back to the light? What about Vader is he trying to emulate?
15. How did Maz get Luke's original lightsaber?
16. What's up with the scene where Maz asks Han, "So who's the girl?" and Han looks her in the eye and the scene cuts away. Further implication that he knows something secret about Rey.
16. If Rey is just a nobody, then why would Luke's lightsaber "call" to her? Why does Rey have the vision when she touches the lightsaber? Why is Obi Wan's voice a part of that vision?
17. Why does Leia act like she knows Rey when they first meet? A general hugging a perfect stranger? Weird.
18. Why does C3PO have the red arm that he's so self-conscious about?
19. Why does R2D2 awaken the moment Rey is in his presence?
20. Why did Luke run away? Help me if I've missed anything. God this movie sucks as a sequel. But, hey, it had good cinematography, right? (vomit)"

As I've predicted, the only accurate gauge of audience reception is box office drop off. Looks like Disney will put a tighter creative lease around Abram's neck for Episode X.
 

AssassinsMace

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In other words, it's called backtracking.

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I heard some comedian on talk radio talk about Last Jedi. He said one time he was working a club and one of the comedians in the night's lineup walked on stage carrying a guitar and then he placed it leaning up on the stool on stage. He did his set of jokes and it went really well and the audience laughed. Then when it was over the guy thanked the crowd, took his guitar, and walked off stage. The crowd started loudly booing.

One of the excuses after the onslaught of negative reactions was Disney gave Rian Johnson a lot of creative control in directing Last Jedi. Like they did for Phil Lord and Christopher Miller directing Han Solo after it was reported that the movie was turning out to be similar to Ace Ventura? Rian Johnson has to backtrack because he's suppose to be the leading creative force behind the next Star Wars trilogy. But I won't pass judgement on Rian Johnson just yet because I doubt Disney/Lucasfilm actually gave him that much control over Last Jedi. That's how Hollywood ruined John Woo. Hollywood just wanted his name to attract his fans to go watch it. Whatever producer that used John Woo didn't care about what happens after. They already made their money and could care less. If John Woo's reputation was tarnished, the next producer would have to deal with the fallout. Former director for Episode 9, Colin Trevorrow, had a lot of ugly rumors spread about him on the creative differences he had with producers that supposedly led to his exit from the movie. Was it because at the time of his firing he didn't like what they did to Last Jedi which would've had a direct affect on his Episode 9 plans? And Rian Johnson who did go along and take the heat was given the next Star Wars trilogy.
 

AssassinsMace

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Yes, the journalist is spinning to make it sound like JJ Abrams is attacking all Star Wars fans hating on Last Jedi. They wouldn't be "fans" if they hated A New Hope as he argues. I just hope Jar Jar Abrams is not involved in the trilogy from the Game of Throne producers.

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It's pretty funny how Hollywood is obsessed with wondering why Chinese movies audiences haven't gravitated to Star Wars.

It'll be interesting this week with a lot of attention over Black Panther big box office this weekend but Monster Hunt 2 opened in China too and made $97 million on its first day compared to Black Panther's $70 plus million domestic opening.
 

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Yes, the journalist is spinning to make it sound like JJ Abrams is attacking all Star Wars fans hating on Last Jedi. They wouldn't be "fans" if they hated A New Hope as he argues. I just hope Jar Jar Abrams is not involved in the trilogy from the Game of Throne producers.

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It's pretty funny how Hollywood is obsessed with wondering why Chinese movies audiences haven't gravitated to Star Wars.

It'll be interesting this week with a lot of attention over Black Panther big box office this weekend but Monster Hunt 2 opened in China too and made $97 million on its first day compared to Black Panther's $70 plus million domestic opening.

Is the Mainland audience Marvelled out?
 

AssassinsMace

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I'm watching these videos on YouTube about how Star Wars Last Jedi merchandise failed to sell . You see Last Jedi toys selling for a dollar at bargain stores. I don't know if it was a realistic picture because I know there are secondary Star Wars toys that are sold to independent and smaller stores who couldn't sell the more popular kinds of toys reserved for the big chains. So it could've been just them. But interesting this week was the release of Last Jedi on Blu-ray. At Best Buy they sell the steel case version and for big movies they go fast. A couple weeks ago I went to buy Thor: Ragnorak but because I went that evening of the release I saw the steel case versions were all gone and the inventory of the regular versions almost depleted. Last Jedi... I'd say well over half of the inventory on the shelves was still available that night including steel cases. I hope Darth Disney is ready to kill off some Admirals leading the Empire off in wrong directions.
 
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