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    interesting assortment
    Inside South Korea’s military wish list, as it seeks greater control over its forces https://www.defensenews.com/global/...-as-it-seeks-greater-control-over-its-forces/
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    it's https://www.defensenews.com/global/...-as-it-seeks-greater-control-over-its-forces/
     
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    Three more Se Jong the Great AEGIS destroyers which are really cruisers, with 144 VLS cells. And new subs with ballistic missile launch capability...not to mention adding another Dokdo Carrier and having them both loaded up with F-35Bs!

    Now South Korea and Japan will both have two carrier, each with 20-24 F-35Bs and plenty of excellent escorts to defend them.

    Not to mention the US LHA/:HDs able to operate in an escort carrier role with up to 20 or 24 F-35Bs, which the US used last week when the USS Wasp. LHD-1 cruised, with its AEGIS Burke escorts through the south china Sea with 12 F-35Bs on its decks.

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    ...and the Japanese Izumo class with F-35Bs. They are going to add a ski-jump to each as shown in the second picture.

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    and then the Korean Dokdo doing the same:

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    See the following two Videos:


    Japanese two carrier group Carrier Strike Group:



    US LHD-7, USS Iwo Jima outfitted as a carrier.



    The US has already deployed three of its LHD/LHA on missions with larger numbers of F-35Bs than what they used to deploy with Harrier IIs.

    1. The USS Wasp is forward deployed in Japan with up to 24 F-35Bs. It recently sailed through the South China Sea with 12 of them aboard as shown above.

    2. The USS Essex, LHD-2 was sent on its latest Mission to the Persion Gulf with 12 F-35Bs.

    3. The USS America ahs been deployed recently for several months training F-35Bs in opwerations off of her decks with up to 20 F-35Bs.

    That's, in essence, three more carriers the US is deploying by simply doing what it started practicing during Desert Storm whe it outfitted three Wasp class LPDs with 22 Harriers each.

    The US is seriously working up and training operationally to operate seveal LHD/LHAs as escort carriers with 20-24 F-35Bs...even while they continue to build the new Ford class nuclear carriers. And, Trump recently decided not to decommission the USS Truman nuclear carrier as it approaches its mid-life maintenance as numbers of Democratic congressmen desired to save money for socakl programs.
     
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    Three more Se Jong the Great AEGIS destroyers which are really cruisers, with 144 VLS cells. And new subs with ballistic missile launch capability...not to mention adding another Dokdo Carrier and having them both loaded up with F-35Bs!

    Now South Korea and Japan will both have two carrier, each with 20-24 F-35Bs and plenty of excellent escorts to defend them.

    Not to mention the US LHA/:HDs able to operate in an escort carrier role with up to 20 or 24 F-35Bs, which the US used last week when the USS Wasp. LHD-1 cruised, with its AEGIS Burke escorts through the south china Sea with 12 F-35Bs on its decks.

    Wasp-F-35-02.jpg

    ...and the Japanese Izumo class with F-35Bs. They are going to add a ski-jump to each as shown in the second picture.

    Izumosx2.jpg

    DDH-183-00.JPG
    and then the Korean Dokdo doing the same:

    Dokdo-01.jpg
    Dokdo-04.jpg

    See the following two Videos:


    Japanese two carrier group Carrier Strike Group:



    US LHD-7, USS Iwo Jima outfitted as a carrier.



    The US has already deployed three of its LHD/LHA on missions with larger numbers of F-35Bs than what they used to deploy with Harrier IIs.

    1. The USS Wasp is forward deployed in Japan with up to 24 F-35Bs. It recently sailed through the South China Sea with 12 of them aboard as shown above.

    2. The USS Essex, LHD-2 was sent on its latest Mission to the Persion Gulf with 12 F-35Bs.

    3. The USS America ahs been deployed recently for several months training F-35Bs in opwerations off of her decks with up to 20 F-35Bs.

    That's, in essence, three more carriers the US is deploying by simply doing what it started practicing during Desert Storm whe it outfitted three Wasp class LPDs with 22 Harriers each.

    The US is seriously working up and training operationally to operate seveal LHD/LHAs as escort carriers with 20-24 F-35Bs...even while they continue to build the new Ford class nuclear carriers. And, Trump recently decided not to decommission the USS Truman nuclear carrier as it approaches its mid-life maintenance as numbers of Democratic congressmen desired to save money for socakl programs.
     
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    it's been some time though LOL these are from December of 2013
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    From two days ago:

    South Korea to Acquire 3 more Se Jong the Great KDX-III AEGIS destroyers



    These three are be targeted for commissioning by 2028.

    TWo days agao Lockheed was awarded the contract to develop and install the AEGIS Syste on all three vessels, with that work to be completed for ll thrrr by 2026,

    Lockheed Awarded Contract to Equip New KDX-111 DDGs with AEGIS

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    Also...from 2 days ago:

    South Korean Government approves building new destroyers and Submarines

    So the funding is now approved.

    As to te KSS-III Submarines, the first of nine was launched in September 2018.

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    "The first-of-class KSS-III, christened Dosan Ahn Chang-ho, was launched in September 2018. Overall, South Korea intents to build a fleet of nine KSS-III SSKs. As I explained last year:

    The entire KSS-III class of subs will be produced in three batches. The first batch will include three boats, each fitted with six vertical missile tubes with the first two submarines to be assembled by DSME and the third to be built by South Korean shipbuilder Hyundai Heavy Industries (HHI). The first three boats are expected to be operational by the early 2020s.

    The next batch of three submarines, also fitted with a six-tube vertical launch system, is slated to be deployed by 2025, while the last three boats, reportedly boasting a displacement of over 3,500 tons and equipped with 10 vertical launch tubes each, will all be delivered to the ROKN by 2029. Each batch will reportedly see a gradual increase in the number of indigenous components used for the various sub-systems of the boats.

    The KSS-III class will be the first ROKN SSKs capable of vertically launching ballistic or cruise missiles. DAPA has been partnering with South Korean defense firm LIG Nex1 to design and produce a new submarine-launched ballistic missile (SLBM) for the subs.

    The first KSS-III SSK is slated to be handed over to the ROKN by the end of 2020 or early 2021."

    As o the 2nd Dokdo, Well, it was launched in May of last year, 2018.

    South Korea's 2nd Dokdo Carrier hits the water

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    And w know from the lat two months that S. Korea plans to equip both Dokdos with Ski-jums and F-35B aircraft.
     
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    yeah but already Dec 11, 2013 a member posted the article saying "South Korea's Joint Chiefs of Staff (JCS) will approve a plan on Tuesday to build three more Aegis destroyers to complement the three it already has to bolster defense against North Korea and its Asian neighbors, military officials said." etc.:
    so it's taking time, isn't it?
     
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    All nations have a funding process they go through.

    Even in the US, it takes time for the Congress and the military to 1st agree on something, then create the legislation and work your way through the legislative "riders" congressmen and women, or senators then try to attach to those bills. It can take years.

    But right now, the latest news is that the 2nd Dokdo got approved funded and built. The 1st of nine of the new subs got approved, funded and built,,,and all of the first three and now the second three of those subs are approved and funded.

    Also the revision of the Dokdos, adding the ski-jump and other provisions for the F-35Bs is also approved and funded. I am not sure how long along the path to funding the F-35Bs are, but they are approved and pretty far along in the funding process. In this case, the initial group of them will definitely be built in the US and the turned over to the South Koreans.

    The same is largely true for the Japanese. Their first new improved Atago, the Maya class, was approved, funded and built and the first in class, the Maya, has now been launched. Like the Koreans, the 2nd ship has already started building, They already have both Izuno carriers and the improvements to both ships are approved and funded.

    The next three Korean KDX-!!! move along. The US confirmed in September 2016 that the next three Sejong the Great vessels will be capable of performing "integrated air and missile defense" (IAMD) to supplement U.S. Army ground-based missile interceptors on the peninsula, likely being outfitted with the SM-3. While the first three destroyers are fitted with Aegis Baseline 7 based on older proprietary computers that can't carry out IAMD operations, the following three will be fitted with the Baseline 9 version of the Aegis Combat System that combines modern computing architecture to allow the AN/SPY-1D(v) radar to perform air warfare and BMD missions at the same time. Now that has moved to reality as I posted yesterday that as two days ago, here in May 2019, Lockheed was awarded the contract from Korea to build the AEGIS components for all three ships, and to complete that work for all three by 2026....probably the 1st in 2022, then the 2nd in 2024, and the thrid in 2026. This fits in well with the Korean plan to have all three commissioned by 2028. Probably wow4 commissioning for the 1st, 2026 for the 2nd, and 2028 for the 3rd. This means that the first should be lauched around 2022 and should start building early next year. We shall see, but such an award could not bbe dubded unless the three ships were already approved and funded.

    The fact is, this is all happening and South Korea and Jpana are going to have fixed wing carrier Stikr groups cetered aroind the Izumo carriers for the JMSDF, and the Dokdos for the South Korean Navy. As I say, any of those four , carrying 20-24 F-35Bs will be a great threat to the current Chinese carriers. China is going to have to get to their CATOBAR carrier with a 5th gen fighter and a deent AEW aircraft to face the new reality developing in the western Pacific. PArticularly if JApan and S. Korea, and perhaps Australia, place the EV-22 Osprey AEW on their carriers.Time will tell...but I would not be surprised to see Australia use the Canberras similar to the Izumos and the Dokdos, or to see India try and arrange something similar for their Vikramaditya and Virkat.

    We kow this with Korea, as a part of the announcement fomr three days agos I poste

    All of this goes to show definitively that now, those 3 DDGs are approved and funded and we are now wating for them to lay the keel sometime after June of this year, eith this fall, or early in 2020.

    As a result of all of thos, we know this, the US will be able to surge up to four CVNs into th Western Pacific, surge up o 4 LHD/LHAs with a carrier airwig of F-35Bs, and Japan and South carrier will be able to surge two each. Tis makes for 12 carriers that can be surged by those countries with 5th generation stealth strik fighters...and up to four more if India and Australia got into the act.

    The developing scenario is going to be difficult for the PLAN to counter.
     
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    Jeff somehow can't find a statement confirming your sentence:
    after my google search all I can see is like South Korea "seeks", "may", "wants", or for example
    "The Republic of Korea Navy (RoKN) has issued a tender for a research project to explore the possibility of operating the short take-off and vertical landing (STOVL) variant of the Lockheed Martin F-35 Lightning II Joint Strike Fighter (JSF) from its recently launched Dokdo-class landing platform helicopter (LPH) vessel ..."
    RoKN considering F-35Bs for carrier operations https://www.janes.com/article/82474/rokn-considering-f-35bs-for-carrier-operations

    see? just talking, so what did I miss?
     
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    Well, it is one thing to build systems in South Korea, it is another to buy them wholesale from some other country without tech transfer.
    That costs a lot of foreign exchange reserves. Still, I expect an F-35B purchase will happen.
     
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