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have the last word on that, but I hardly call shelling your neighbor respect.
It beats interfering and regime changing around the world just because one's own elite rulers doesn't like that particular government therefore created regional havoc and instability. I'm just saying.
 
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China: North Korea could suspend nukes if U.S., South Korea halt drills
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U.S. rejects China's call to halt drills if North Korea stops tests
The United States on Wednesday rejected China's proposal for a halt to joint U.S.-South Korean military exercises if North Korea suspends its nuclear and missile activities. It called North Korean leader Kim Jong Un irrational and demanded "positive action" before the U.S. can take his regime seriously.

In Washington, U.S. State Department acting spokesman Mark Toner said, "At this point we don't see it as a viable deal." A Pentagon spokesman, Cmdr. Gary Ross, said U.S. activities to defend South Korea "cannot be equated to North Korea's repeated violations of its obligations and agreements."

The U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, Nikki Haley, told reporters after an emergency Security Council meeting on North Korea's latest ballistic missile launches that the United States must see "some sort of positive action" by Kim's regime before discussing ways to reduce tensions on the Korean Peninsula.

"They've given us enough reason to think how irresponsible that they are that we ever try and think that we're dealing with a rational person on this," she said.

Earlier Wednesday, Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi proposed the freeze-for-freeze, likening escalating tensions between the North and Washington and Seoul to "two accelerating trains, coming toward each other with neither side willing to give way."

The idea was rejected by South Korea and Japan as well as the U.S.

Haley said the military drills are especially needed now after North Korea conducted two nuclear tests and 24 ballistic missile launches last year and two sets of missile launches and the assassination of Kim Jong Un's estranged brother using a chemical weapon this year.

She also defended the upcoming deployment of a U.S. missile defense system in South Korea, a move that has been strongly opposed by China. She said America would not leave its ally facing the threat from North Korea without help.

"We have not seen any goodwill at all coming from North Korea," Haley said. "I appreciate all my counterparts wanting to talk about talks and negotiations, (but) we are not dealing with a rational person."

With any other country, the United States would be seeking negotiations, she said.

"This is not a rational person, who has not had rational acts, who is not thinking clearly," Haley said of North Korea's leader. "This is someone who is trying to get attention. This is someone who is trying to get a reaction."

Haley said the United States is re-evaluating how it is going to deal with North Korea going forward "and we are making those decisions now and will act accordingly."

"We're not ruling anything out and we're considering every option that's on the table," she said.

South Korean Ambassador Cho Tae-yul also rejected the idea of a North Korean nuclear freeze in exchange for halting U.S.-South Korea military exercises, which he stressed are defensive in nature.

"Linking this exercise to anything else, which is illegal nuclear and missile provocation by North Korea, is inappropriate and unacceptable, and I think this is just trying to link the unlinkable," he said.

"All kinds of options have been exhausted so far," Cho said, "So the only available means to change the North Korean behavior fundamentally is to continue to keep up the pressure and sanctions on North Korea."

Japan's U.N. ambassador, Koro Bessho, said that "at the starting point we need some assurances they are serious about the denuclearization."

"So Japan's position is that it's not freeze-for-freeze but it's denuclearization that we're looking for," Bessho said.

But Chinese Ambassador Liu Jieyi warned that "if you look at ... the development of events now on the Korean Peninsula there's a real danger, there's a real risk."

The alternative to China's proposal "would be escalation of tension, and the situation may get out of control," he told The Associated Press and two other reporters.

"We should avoid any worsening of the situation, or still any conflict, any sparks triggering a larger-scale conflict or even war on the Korean Peninsula," Liu said. "That's not something that's in the interest of anyone."

He said implementing China's proposal "shouldn't be hard" if there is political will, but "it would take the agreement of all the sides to get this result."

When asked whether China had a commitment from North Korea to freeze testing, he told the AP that "we have been talking to various parties concerned about this."

Haley said talks are one option on the table for U.S. consideration along with many others that she declined to specify. She said other Security Council members would also all be discussing with their capitals what to do next on North Korea.

Japan's Bessho said three of the missiles launched Sunday night landed in his country's exclusive economic zone where fishermen troll for squid. He said the North Korean military unit that conducted the launches is tasked with striking U.S. military bases in Japan when necessary.

"This shows us they are serious in these aggressive actions," Bessho said, calling the North's actions "a serious matter for the whole world."

He welcomed the Security Council's reaction late Tuesday, which was stronger than after previous launches.

The council strongly condemned the North's missile tests, "increasingly destabilizing behavior" and defiance of the council's resolutions. It said the missile activity increases tensions in the region and beyond, and risks a regional arms race.

The Security Council has already imposed six rounds of increasingly tougher sanctions on North Korea. It urged all countries to "redouble efforts" to implement them and warned of possible "further significant measures."

North Korea's Foreign Ministry spokesman on Wednesday categorically rejected the council statement that labeled what he called its "routine" ballistic missile launches a threat. The spokesman reiterated that the U.S.-South Korean exercises are pushing the situation "to the brink of a nuclear war" and the North was responding with "the self-defensive right of a sovereign state."

At the Security Council meeting, British Ambassador Matthew Rycroft, the current council president, said members discussed "a potential role" for Secretary-General Antonio Guterres in pursuing "a united council position," but gave no details.

Speaking on behalf of Britain, Rycroft backed the U.S. saying it's "very important that the first step" come from North Korea to demonstrate its commitment to denuclearization.

China's Liu told the AP the Security Council must follow the situation closely "but it is key that the main players in the region refrain from doing anything that would exacerbate the current highly tense situation on the Korean Peninsula."
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Miragedriver

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Model of an FA-50 in the SEMAN of Peru

There is now talk about Argentina to join co-production with Peru and South Korea. After the visit of KAI to Argentina

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taxiya

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much like the PRC ROC drama, Both North and South Korea claim theirs is only one Korea.
North Korea claims that South Korea is the product of imperial occupation by the US.
South Korea views North Korea as a rogue entity created by the occupation of the north by the Soviet Union after the end of the second world war and held in place by the Kim Regime in a authoritarian stolinist pseudo marxest monarchist farce.
Similar but quite different.

In China's case, both ROC and PRC officially and legally rejects each other's existence as a state. And they both actively rejects dual recognition by third country. Note, there is a change of mind (dual recognition) on the ROC side since the 1990s under Li Denghui administration, but never implemented which need change of the constitution.

In Korea's case, both are member of UN and do not reject dual diplomatic recognitions by a third country, essentially they recognize each other as a separate state without establishing direct diplomatic relation.

The Korean case is more similar to China not having diplomatic relation with the Vatican in the sense of "no relation but no denying of statehood".
 

taxiya

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Lose lose situation

This time, there are no reasons for Pyongyang's attitude to be any different. The sanctions will make life more difficult for North Koreans, but they will hardly deliver the intended result.

However, unintended results are likely. Feeling cornered, the North Korean government might resort to its old tactics of crisis manufacturing: first, to create a dangerous situation, and then extract concessions as a reward for their willingness to back off.

Now Pyongyang has virtually nothing to lose. After Resolution 2270, it is difficult to imagine what else can be done by the outside world to push this rogue state even harder. So, one should be prepared to see whether tough words from Pyongyang will be followed by tough action, perhaps even involving the use of arms.

Nuclear weapons are not likely to be used, of course - but given the general tensions, and oft-repeated willingness of the South Koreans to strike back mightily - even a few artillery shells might provoke a bloody confrontation.

If there is a confrontation the likelihood that Seoul will be overrun within 48 hours is very likely. Were the north can hold it is another question? I my opinion the north may make deep inroads and occupy Seoul with tremendous military and even more civilian casualties. However in the long run North Korea will lose the war and spell the end for the regime in the north.

China has not yet reached the line in the sand with the regime in the north. I also dont see them taking out “fearless leader” and installing their own puppet. The Chinese have had difficulty controlling Korea even during the three dynasty period and will not attempt to do that.

So, the decisions of the UN Security Council do not make the Korean Peninsula more secure, and they do very little towards alleviating the nuclear threat.
Very well said.
Beside the Chinese official line, the Global.cn published a blunt-worded article few days ago telling the two sides.
To the North, "if you play tough, go ahead, invade the south and see how long you will last."
To the South, "you have a big bomb tied to your back, if you want to poke it, go ahead and see where you will be. And drop the wish that China will enjoy the idea of you rule the whole peninsular after the collapse of north."
To all, "what ever happens, China will have to and is able to collect the pieces left on the peninsular as it has done in the long past."
That is very frank thinking.

Here is the
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(in Chinese) for reference.
 
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