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FORBIN

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Indonésia
AF have received 5 new formers USAF Block 25 upgraded in Block 52.
Now have 13 remains 10 others for end 2017, 1 yet lost, total 24, they have also 10 Block 10/15, new in addition.
Allow to create a 2nd Sqn yet begin stand up.


2nd SIGMA 10514 embark later a AS565 MBe ASW 11 in order right now they don't have armed helos then a ramp up.
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FORBIN

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... but it seems they don't have money to arm the second one:
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is how google translated from
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have no idea how credible this info is ... anyway I start cursing once I see FFBNW (no matter which Navy had to use this "concept")
Easy to translate Asian languages :rolleyes: o_O
 

SouthernSky

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With the paint hardly dry....

Thankfully only a minor collision according to sources.

The Philippine Navy’s (PN) largest vessel has suffered minor damage after a collision with a tanker.

The BRP Tarlac, a new landing dock vessel, was anchored at Naval Station Romula Espaldon off Mindanao on 19 September when it was rammed by a Liberian tanker. Philippine naval officials said that although none of the crew members were hurt, the vessel sustained minor damage in the right forward bulwark and the side ramp.

Delivered to the Philippines in May, Tarlac is a Strategic Sealift Vessel (SSV)-1 built by Indonesia’s state-owned shipbuilder PT PAL (See: “
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”). It was part of a contract PT PAL secured back in 2014 worth $92 million to deliver two SSVs to the Philippines (the other is expected to be delivered by mid-2017).

Assigned to the Philippine Fleet’s Sealift Amphibious Force, it has an overall length of 120 meters, breadth of 21 meters, and draft of five meters. It can carry a payload of 2,800 tons and has a cruising speed of 13 knots and maximum speed of 16 knots, with a minimum range of 7,500 nautical miles.

SSVs like the Tarlac can be used for several purposes, including meeting a variety of sea-based transport and logistics needs, including humanitarian assistance and disaster relief missions as well as a command and control ship in bigger operations.

In recent weeks, Tarlac has been utilized as a command-and-control vessel for ongoing sea denial missions in Sulu directed at the Abu Sayyaf.

Philippine Navy spokesperson Lued Lincuna told local media outlets that repairs would take place as part of the ship’s usual cycle and that the ship could continue to perform its current tasks without trouble.

He added that an investigation by the Philippine Coast Guard Station would determine the circumstances of the collision.

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WuWuLiu

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These two vessels will be excellent additions to the Indonesian Navy.

They will compliment the four Sigma 9113 vessels they have which displace 1,700 tons, the three BAE System F2000 ships they got when Brunei reneged on the deal, each of which displace 2,000 tons, and the aging Van-Speijk frigates that were sold to Indonesia when they went out of service with the Netherlands.

With these two vessels., the Indonesian Navy will have 15 frigates class vessels.

The Indonesians also have 16 ASW corvettes that were an East German Design that they bought afte the fall of the soviet Union. They are small coastal ASW corvettes that displace about 900 tons each.

Jeff, according to this
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the Van-Speijk/Ahmad Yani frigates will be decommissioned starting in 2017 at the rate of one a year. So basically, the Martadinata-class PKR will be nominal replacements for them. However, they still need to order more of such unit to complement the retirements.

The Fatahillah class corvettes are being given mid-life modernization, the first may be re-joining the fleet this year.

Out of the sixteen ex-Parchim-class ASW Corvettes -- one had already been lost in a fire in 2008 and another -- KRI Pati Unus -- run aground last May and may be difficult to recover.
 

FORBIN

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... but it seems they don't have money to arm the second one:
sigma-10514-indonesia.jpg


is how google translated from
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have no idea how credible this info is ... anyway I start cursing once I see FFBNW (no matter which Navy had to use this "concept")

For comparison similar with a Godwind 2500, Frigates of 2nd rank.

Weapons ordered for both, i precise here Sigma 10514 in fact Raden Eddy Martadinata Class use VL Mica
Confirmed by SIPRI
(40) MICA BVRAAM (2012) VL-MICA SAM version for SIGMA-10514
30 MM-40 Exocet Anti-ship missile (2012) For SIGMA-10514 frigates

And yet 4 Sigma 9113 Diponegoro class use launcher Tetral with 4 Mistral, exist also Simbad with 6 Mistral and Simbad with 2 Mistral.
And they have only 4 x MM40 Block 2 vs 8 Block 3 for 10514, a more long stick :)
 

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Jeff, according to this
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the Van-Speijk/Ahmad Yani frigates will be decommissioned starting in 2017 at the rate of one a year. So basically, the Martadinata-class PKR will be nominal replacements for them. However, they still need to order more of such unit to complement the retirements.

Total of 6 planned to replace
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. 2 under construction and another 4 planned. 2 ships will build by PT PAL Indonesia and Damen Schelde. Estimated arrival in 2017
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Hendrik_2000

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Total of 6 planned to replace
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. 2 under construction and another 4 planned. 2 ships will build by PT PAL Indonesia and Damen Schelde. Estimated arrival in 2017
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Intention is one thing but realizing it might be difficult.Indonesia suffer large shortfall in income. There will be budget cut including military. As I said multiple time the underlying strength of one country is economy. Without strong economy you cannot build strong military

Why is Indonesia Set to Cut its Military Budget for 2016?
Move would be another blow to Jakarta’s military modernization efforts.

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September 10, 2015


Indonesia is planning to cut its defense budget next year for the first time in five years, raising further doubts about the Asian power’s ability to transform its military.

Despite being the world’s largest archipelagic state and its fourth most populous country, Indonesia has significantly underinvested in its military relative even to its smaller Southeast Asian neighbors. Despite sharp increases in recent years, Indonesian defense spending as a percentage of GDP was the lowest in ASEAN at 0.8 percent in 2014, well below the regional average of 2.2 percent. President Joko “Jokowi” Widodo had come into office pledging to increase that figure to 1.5 percent of GDP and even double the budget in 2016 as Indonesia seeks to develop a Minimum Essential Force by 2024 (See: “
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But in a huge blow to those ambitions, local media reports
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that the Indonesian government plans to cut its defense allocation next year by 6.3 percent, or Rp 7 trillion ($490 million), down to Rp 95.8 trillion. This would in effect reverse a trend seen over the past few years where budgets have risen from Rp 17 trillion in 2010 to 102.3 trillion in 2015. It would also further slow the pace of Indonesia’s military modernization which is badly needed given the country’s aging systems, limited capabilities and growing aspirations to be an influential power (See: “
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Indonesia’s newly installed military chief Gatot Nurmantyo indicated that the cut was due to the weak financial position of the government arising from global currency instability (See: “
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“When we drew up the draft 2015 state budget, we assumed that one US dollar would be worth Rp 12,500. The fact now is that one dollar is equal to Rp 14,000,” Gatot
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reporters.

The reasoning itself is far from surprising. Indeed, as I pointed out in a piece back in May, few expected Jokowi’s ambitious plan to double Indonesia’s defense budget to materialize given the global financial conditions and its effects on Indonesia (See: “
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”). As I noted in that piece, Jokowi had vowed to double the defense budget in 2016 if the economy grew by 7 percent. But with growth slipping to just 4.7 percent in the second quarter – its slowest pace in nearly six years – and the rupiah down 13 percent this year amid sluggish growth in China, Japan and the Eurozone, that seemed very unlikely to occur.

But a cut – as opposed to a slower increase – has significant implications because it will require reductions in certain areas, whether it be new equipment or personnel costs. Gatot has indeed already indicated that he will order a reduction in the procurement of new weapons in response to the planned budget cut. However, he also hinted that priority would still be placed on new equipment for the navy and air force even with the cuts in line with Jokowi’s so-called global maritime fulcrum (See: “
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”). For instance, he noted that the Air Force could prioritize buying radars and Sukhoi SU-35 jet fighters, while the Navy could aim to procure submarines, frigates and radars.

“As we plan to turn Indonesia into a maritime axis, we should strengthen our presence in airspace and the sea,” he said.

Gatot’s comments may seem encouraging in that they suggest that Jokowi’s priorities will remain and that major acquisition programs will be shielded despite the cuts. And to be sure, the amount of money available for defense is only one – albeit a major – factor in Indonesia’s ongoing military modernization process. But at the same time, the focus on how a shrinking pie is divvied up will not distract Indonesia watchers from the fact that a pie, already far too small, is getting even smaller instead of continuing to grow at a faster pace.
 
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SouthernSky

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Philippines and the US to conduct naval exercises together.

Manila: The Philippines and the US have scheduled military drills next month in the South-East Asian nation, the US embassy in Manila said, days after President Rodrigo Duterte acknowledged that his country did need American troops in the South China Sea.

About 1400 US servicemen based in Okinawa, Japan, and 500 Philippine Armed Forces personnel will conduct an amphibious-landing exercise and live-fire training in multiple locations on the main island of Luzon and in Palawan, according to a
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. The nine-day drills, aimed at making troops better prepared to operate together during a natural disaster or armed conflict, are to start on October 4.

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Philippine President Rodrigo Duterte. Photo: AP
Mr Duterte has sent conflicting messages about Philippine foreign policy and the nature of his nation's links with overseas partners since he was sworn in late June, sowing confusion at a time of rising concern about China's claims to most of the South China Sea. The former mayor last week acknowledged that his country needed American troops after earlier calling for the end of joint patrols in the strategic waterway. The US alliance with the Philippines has for decades been a bedrock of American influence in the region.

"Exchanging expertise and cultivating our longstanding security alliance provides a cornerstone for security and stability in the region, and has for decades," Brigadier General John Jansen, Commanding General, 3rd Marine Expeditionary Brigade, said in the statement.

Mr Duterte has proved to be unpredictable, as well as blunt and provocative, in his opening weeks in office, and has often made conflicting statements. These have included remarks on whether the Philippines intends to negotiate with China over territory in the South China Sea, a region in which Manila also has claims.

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Whilst these exercises would have been planned some time ago Rodrigo Duterte is certainly living up to expectations of unpredictability.

days after President Rodrigo Duterte acknowledged that his country did need American troops in the South China Sea.

I can only imagine the scenario planning going on in Washington at the moment.
 
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