Sino-Myanmar Border Conflicts

getready

Senior Member
First sign of western media reporting on this. . Al Jazeera had a 5 second blurb lol. And only saying Myanmar apologized and blamed rebels. Imagine the uproar if it was china the perpetrater and not the victim. All hell will break lose. But since china cannot be painted as a bad guy, western media don't care either way as it doesng fit their narrative of big bad china
 

Skye_ZTZ_113

Junior Member
Registered Member
I'm of the opinion that the PRC can't win the PR battle either way. Their current solution of taking a calm and measured response is strictly proportional to the recent bombings. Anything else is really just hot air imo, and the CCP should know this.
 

SpicySichuan

Senior Member
Registered Member
First sign of western media reporting on this. . Al Jazeera had a 5 second blurb lol. And only saying Myanmar apologized and blamed rebels. Imagine the uproar if it was china the perpetrater and not the victim. All hell will break lose. But since china cannot be painted as a bad guy, western media don't care either way as it doesng fit their narrative of big bad china
Too bad for China, or any non-democratic rising powers. History is just not on their side, as least not so as long as Liberal norms remain the dominant global political thought. Adding to democratic peace is the traditional geopolitical thinking of Morgenthau, Waltz, and Mearsheimer. Western media loves to utilize neorealism to exaggerate China's threat since it is the easiest theory to explain international politics to any audiences, if not a problem-solving prescription for the West. Non of the Western IR theories - other than trade liberals - would consider rising China (and CCP leaders more specifically) a "good guy." Maybe E. H. Carr would like to "share power" and "appease" China so that the international system becomes "more just," but look at what happened after 1939. Of course, you can also point out that China is not Nazi Germany, and historical analogies do not always work.

Just look at how this article is framed, especially the last paragraph:
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Ultra

Junior Member
I think once your territory is bombed and your citizens are killed you will have no other choice but to mass troops on your border. Not just China but any nation in the world. There is no country or government in the world that can sit still and do nothing after an incident like this.


Remember few years ago there was that incident where North Korean border guards shot dead 3 chinese citizens? China didn't mass troops to the border then. And then just 2 months ago North Korean soldier again killed 4 chinese citizens in Chinese terriotory again. Again, nothing.

China will just down play the whole situation as not to escalate it further as they always did.



And Myanmar is not going to be fully democratic. The junta has been cracking down on student protesters and ethnic minorities a like. And Aung San Suu Kyi is not allow to run for president. her party is allow to run for parliament and they might get a few posts in the government but the military will still be in control. And even if Myanmar is going to be fully democratic they will not join the US in containing China for her own national interest.


Well, all I can say is....you never know what the future holds! :)

But I can give you a few examples in Asia:

1. Indonesia's Suharto
2. South Korea's Park Chung Hee
3. South Korea's Chun Doo Hwan
4. Taiwan's Chiang Kai-shek
5. Taiwan's Chiang Ching-kuo
6. Philippine's Ferdinand Marcos

All of them dictators who eventually either got disposed of, or died and the country went fully democratic. So. I would say it again...you never know what the future holds! :)
 

delft

Brigadier
Well, all I can say is....you never know what the future holds! :)

But I can give you a few examples in Asia:

1. Indonesia's Suharto
2. South Korea's Park Chung Hee
3. South Korea's Chun Doo Hwan
4. Taiwan's Chiang Kai-shek
5. Taiwan's Chiang Ching-kuo
6. Philippine's Ferdinand Marcos

All of them dictators who eventually either got disposed of, or died and the country went fully democratic. So. I would say it again...you never know what the future holds! :)
OT
Your glasses must be very rose tinted to call these countries "fully democratic".
Indeed I consider no country in the World deserving of this title.
 

plawolf

Lieutenant General
Remember few years ago there was that incident where North Korean border guards shot dead 3 chinese citizens? China didn't mass troops to the border then. And then just 2 months ago North Korean soldier again killed 4 chinese citizens in Chinese terriotory again. Again, nothing.

China will just down play the whole situation as not to escalate it further as they always did.

Both those incidents iirc, involve soldiers going rouge to commit robbery and murder.

You treat 'Massing troops' like its some kind of magical cure for all problems that should be the first response rather then the last resort.

Do you have any idea how stupid and idiotic China (or any government) would look it massed troops and threatened war over every tiny slight or offence (be it real of perceived) as its standard first response?

Fortunately we done even need to use our imaginations to see such an adolescent and knee-jerk reaction policy in action in real life, what you suggest China do is pretty much what North Korea does do.

So, did all that sabre rattling and troop massing do their credibility any good? :rolleyes:

Given your brainwashed worship of 'democracy', I am starting to suspect the root cause and reason for all your belly aching is less to do with the Chinese government response and rather more to do with the Chinese government itself.

Its a tactic used often even by 'democracy' worshippers, who will abandon all sense and reason to bash the Chinese government no matter for it does for the grave sin of not being 'democratic'.
 
Remember few years ago there was that incident where North Korean border guards shot dead 3 chinese citizens? China didn't mass troops to the border then. And then just 2 months ago North Korean soldier again killed 4 chinese citizens in Chinese terriotory again. Again, nothing.

China will just down play the whole situation as not to escalate it further as they always did.

Not comparable situations with the bombing from Myanmar, in the older case suspected smugglers were shot by NK border guards along the border in a river, in the newer case a NK defector attempting robbery did the shooting. In both cases China made public complaints to NK, I believe NK compensated the victims' families and apologized in the respective cases, they are really not responsible for the defector acting on his own volition.
 

broadsword

Brigadier
Friendship between China and Burma is a lot more normal than what the incident and the media made it out to be.


Myanmar 'sorrow' over China deaths amid rebel conflict
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It said an investigation would be launched into whether the Kokang insurgent group was involved in the incident so as "to have a negative impact on the friendship between Myanmar and China and to create instability along the border area".
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The BBC's Myanmar correspondent, Jonah Fisher, says there is too much shared interest for Beijing and Nay Pyi Taw to fall out completely.
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