Shenyang FC-31 / J-31 Fighter Demonstrator

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  1. SteelBird
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    Well, it's just his suggestion, don't take it serious. Personally, I don't China would produce anything like the F-35B any time soon.
     
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    I mean, how did he come to that suggestion in the first place??

    Even he admits there are two engines. And then he jumps to VSTOL. I know of no fighters in history that have more than one engine and are capable of VTOL. And does anyone really think the PLA currently remotely want anything as complex as a VSTOL stealth (or even non stealth) fighter in the first place? Honestly if I was him and saw the twin engines and the seemingly stealthy shape and discucsions on blogs and forums I'd immediately compare it to the other legions of twin engine F-35 class paper planes currently being studied by the japanese, koreans, indians, turks and what not. Makes me wonder if there's a failure of logic when he wrote it or is purposefully trying to be obtuse.

    And again another western observer chooses to link J-20 with Mig-31. Le sigh.
     
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    From this...

    http://defensetech.org/2012/06/22/a-new-chinese-fighter-sigh-no/

    To this...

    http://defensetech.org/2012/06/25/maybe-this-really-is-chinas-new-stealth-jet/

    Maybe This Really Is China’s New Stealth Jet

    Last week, we were inclined to say this plane was simply a Hondgu L-15 trainer jet being transported accross China via a flatebed truck. Some readers were skeptical, saying that it looked more like the stealth F-60 that China’s Shenyang aircraft-maker is rumored to be building. Well, new pics emerged over the weekend that show an aircraft that has us rethinking our initial call.

    As you can see from these new pics, it appears that the mystery jet has air intakes that do indeed resemble those shown on a mock up of the F-60 (see below), it’s wing flaps also seem t resemble the F-60, and the cockpit, well, you be the judge.

    Click through the jump to see an overhead view of the mystery jet that also resembles the F-60 as well as a picture of a model F-60 that strongly resembles a smaller version of an F-22 Raptor (with different air intakes and engine nozzles, etc.) I’m not even gonna say it.

    If this veiled jet really is the F-60 (it could be another airplane or just a large mock up of the F-60), China might be on track to to reveal two new types of stealth fighters in less than two years.
     
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    weren't Bill Sweetman constantly trashing F-35 and suggest a mid sized, conventional layout F414EFE engined stealth fighte without the absurd VTOL requirements is the way to go???

    :)
     
  5. Semi-Lobster
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    Well I think we should all hope that China would have a bit more foresight to not pursue the development of a money wasting, dead-end as diligently as Boeing has like the F-35B ;)

    BTW any more information on the location of 'mystery plane' yet? Has it already reached its destination?
     
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    Psst, the F35 is Lockmart's baby, not Boeing's. ;)
     
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    It's not a dead-end yet, just think of it as three planes (versions A,B, and C) that looked the same with one price tag.
     
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    It reached Yanliang several days ago.
     
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    So can we assume this aircraft is just like F-35 without the vstol ability? A lightweight stealth 5th gen fighter at the price of J-10 for export and cheap mass production.
     
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    How could that be? It has typical stealth featuers, which means its investment in R&D would be higher, if not a lot higher. It has two engines, which means what's too obvious to discuss. It then shoud have all the rest that the J-10 has. So why did you think it would sell at the same price as the J-10 does? It can't be "cheap", it can only be relatively inexpensive or, more precisely speaking, less expensive.

    P.S. It's not a light weight aircraft (that would be stuff like LCA). It is a medium weight aircraft.
     
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