Shenyang FC-31 / J-31 Fighter Demonstrator

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  1. Air Force Brat
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    If you had read post 5948 I already said that, that being said? it was his own people in leadership who attempted to "drive him from power". Now back to the FC-31, this is an opportunity for China, they will continue to pursue a more positive relationship with Mr. Erdogan in the short term, with Turkey in the long run..... on every level.
     
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    Turkey requirements is to have a technology transfer and coproduction arrangement to achieve reasonable self-reliance. This is not forthcoming with the Patriot being offered. They apparently are unwilling to compromise on this principle for security purpose as the US has been sanction-happy and an unreliable partner. This likely is primary reason for choosing the S-400.

    Threat of dropping Turkey from F-35 program further exacerbate their security concern. Logic dictates that they look for a less sanction-prone alternative for which Su-57 could be a good fit. But they also have concern about Russian capability to fulfill the requirements for the quantity required. The FC-31 could be a secondary option in such case where Russia is unable to completely fulfill the requirements.

    If US withdraws the threat and can reestablish credibility, Turkey will likely opt for the F-35.

    Either way, Turkey's pursuit for alternative are a logical result of current state of affairs.

    Turkey interest will be a boost for Shenyang but the bigger question as many have commented are:
    Can Pres. Edrogan be a trustworthy partner for this type of collaboration.
    How can any gap and deficiency be address.

    Time will tell.
     
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    Turkey has wanted the missile defense tech transfer for a long time. Also, the Turkish Air Force was the branch of the armed forces most in favor of the coup attempt against Erdogan. So he has a lot of reasons to stick them in the eye, so to speak.

    The Russians have done tech transfer in the past, if the country dedicates enough resources to do it of course. That was not the case with Su-57 and India.

    I do agree that the TF-X program is advanced enough that it is likely it will be finished, unless, for fiscal reasons, it gets canceled somehow.
    I doubt it would be cancelled for technical reasons.
    It would not be the first time a nation's fighter program dies in the ashes of financial turmoil.

    In that case the FC-31 would make a viable option I think. But if Turkey remains integrated in NATO it would be a mess to integrate either Russian or Chinese assets into their armed forces. Particularly something like a fighter which requires a lot of weapons systems around it. Imagine just having a pile of AMRAAMs you suddenly cannot use.
     
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    Guys ... enough politics, Turkey and NATO .... Stop this.
     
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    Grainy screen captures from a Shenyang corporate promo film...

    A J-31 prototype being assembled...
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    A J-31 model being set up in an anechoic chamber...
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    Not sure if it's the same news:

     
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    Yes it is.
     
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    It is the same piece of news, but the English version had more information. For example, the Chinese version didn't quote this line:"You will see its latest developments in due course, in the near future"; nor did it give any direct conclusion on whether the fc-31 will enter service, as the English version did. Not sure if its deliberately done tho.
     
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    That shop floor looks awfully quiet.

    Either that’s a brand new facility built to mass produce J31s, or SAC is not doing so well.
     

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