Shenyang FC-31 / J-31 Fighter Demonstrator

SinoSoldier

Colonel
Do you think that SAC will do 6 years of testing and not redesign a naval varient to pitch to PLAN considering they already have a naval aircraft in operation ?

They will certainly pitch a naval version, after first land based prototype many thought the project was dead then we seen the 2nd much improved prototype

What is alternative, J20? Too big, not naval optimised and not practical

Carrier 002/003 will need a air wing, the timing for that is about now

That is valid as an opinion, but do you have supporting evidence (or even circulated rumors) that the third prototype will appear in 2018? I don't think SAC would pre-emptively develop and build a naval variant using its own pocket money without at least some form of PLAN backing to it.
 

asif iqbal

Lieutenant General
That is valid as an opinion, but do you have supporting evidence (or even circulated rumors) that the third prototype will appear in 2018? I don't think SAC would pre-emptively develop and build a naval variant using its own pocket money without at least some form of PLAN backing to it.

Yes you just said it, rumours and evesdroping various forums and members ones which I guess I you already know of

That and a little bit of intuition
 

Air Force Brat

Brigadier
Super Moderator
That is valid as an opinion, but do you have supporting evidence (or even circulated rumors) that the third prototype will appear in 2018? I don't think SAC would pre-emptively develop and build a naval variant using its own pocket money without at least some form of PLAN backing to it.

There have been lots of rumor and speculation, but the best evidence extent are

1. the very existence of the initial J-31 proof of concept aircraft.

2. It's appearance, and performance at Zuhai 2015 as a "flying display".

3. The Mock-Up of FC-31 and its active Marketing at Zuhai 2015 by AVIC.

4. The subsequent first flight and continued flight testing of FC-31.

5. Continued marketing and development of the FC-31, which requires both a substantial amount of money and effort by Shenyang, who are responsible for producing and testing China's first active duty carrier aircraft..

6. The F-31s basic configuration and suitability to operate off the Ramp of the CV-016 and CV-017, as a follow up to the J-15...

7. A perception that China desires to have an aircraft to counter the Fifth Generation F-22, F-35 both of which are currently operating in the East China Sea/Sea of Japan, and actively flying out of Japan and South Korea..

8. work continues on the JC-31/FC-31, and a third flying prototype is forecast to be following the earlier efforts in the near future.....
 

Air Force Brat

Brigadier
Super Moderator
The issue with a navalised FC-31 is the engine's timeline. Because the navy has to wait for so long, IMHO they should order a new design.

China has a lot of money and time invested in the FC-31, which is following the only realistic avenue to development, testing, and eventual procurement of a Carrier Capable 5the Generation aircraft!

It is the stated observation of many that the J-20 is not easily adaptable to that role, by the PLAN or anyone else for that matter,,, the USN rejected the F-22 for the same stated reason....to big, too heavy, and not easily adaptable to Naval OPs!
 

Klon

Junior Member
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There's been a lot of talk in the last week saying that the FC-31 (or a development of it) has, in fact, been selected as the carrier-based fighter. I'll post some links shortly (anyone else can also do it).
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This post probably started it all. It's no longer there on weibo.
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. Some state that pb (pb19980515) also said something similar in the past. In total, judge for yourself.
 

kwaigonegin

Colonel
As I stated before, one thing EVERYONE pretty much agrees on is that China/PLAN has been very very clear and very ambitious in their carrier aspirations and by extension their naval air arms. While the J15 is a very capable aircraft, I believe that PLAN is not going to be betting their future naval aircraft on the Flanker frame.
Now, whether that ends up being a J31 derivative (front runner) or something else entirely, I think it's safe to assume a 5th Gen steathy naval aircraft is definitely in the works. The only question remains is will it be the J31 or something else but since it is doubtful there is a 'something else' in any stages of maturity, J31 is the most likely candidate.

again just my 2 pennies
 
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