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    Google says 2019. But who knows. If you follow the link in the post I made prior to that you should be able to see it yourself with Google Maps.

    It is in the Murmansk area. 69.041n,33.068e
     
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    LOL, kinda fun don't ya think, notice the F-15 is at a very safe, respectful distance, unlike some of the very dangerous and unacceptable intercepts by Su-27s against American surveillance aircraft, where the idiots damn near run over unarmed aircraft, where the aircrew are not able to punch out, thereby endangering all aboard...

    If the Su-27 were to have bumped the F-15, either crew could simply punch out... so here again we see the Russians, in an aircraft very easy to egress safely, (yeah, you're right, the Russians have to punch out fairly regularly), threatening to collide with a legitimate intercept...

    and its there on film for all to see.... so what did you learn Bub?

    It looks kool to you no??? hell yeah, its kinda kool, and its effective, its also dangerous and outside protocol for an intercept....

    so, like the Hainan Island incident, this kind of stoopidity, is simply and clearly stoopidity, and you just can't fix stooped, its terminal.

    the F-15 pilot doesn't "cut and run", he stays just off the other aircrafts wing in very close formation, had he desired he could have pitched out and ended up anywhere he wanted to on that Russian surveillance aircraft, even placing it between him and the Su-27, but he choose to remain engaged with the Su-27, pulling him away from the other US intercept aircraft, which could have then engaged the Russian Surveillance aircraft???

    the Western Forces are very well disciplined, and are NOT a threat to the aircraft they are intercepting, because they are doing exactly that, its an intercept, nothing more, nothing less...
     
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    yep, the old Admiral Kuz is in pretty sad shape, supposedly most of the dry dock work had been wrapping up, the sunken dry dock is not economically salvable, so it will be interesting to see what the Russians do to "resurrect" the Admiral Kuz....
     
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    And I was debunking a good deal of what you were saying for the first operational SU27.
    IE. It did not have a true HMCS until after 85-6 with the Shchel-3UM HMD. Which despite the name was little more than a mount with a flip down iron monocle Although wide fielding of such didn't happen until the 1990s the US had been testing a system like it in the late 70s. True HMD emerged with the Elbit Dash series in the 1990s .
    The IRST was not sensor fusion it was a back up. It did have the Soviets first fly by wire system and impressive aerial performance but was that enough to claim a "Generation ahead"?
     
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    AFAIK the Russians only do sensor fusion in the Su-35 aircraft and later. In prior aircraft they had a distributed systems architecture. So it means the pilot has an increased sensory burden on those aircraft. But regardless of how crude the cuing of the Su-27 was, at least it had some, together with the R-73 missile.

    Heck, even today you see F-22 fanboys say that having the AIM-9X in the F-22 without an helmet sight is "good enough" as long as the missile seeker can detect the opponent aircraft. Two decades later! It does not even have an iron monocle. The F-22s are supposed to get a modern HMD. Eventually. But it is amazing how the USAF has not done the upgrades yet. The USA has HMDs in the Super Hornet and the A-10 yet not in their supposed premium dogfighter. It is nonsense.
     
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    how you doing?
    I've now searched yandex.ru (it's like google in Russian) for you, the latest I found I mean official
    (https://russian.rt.com/russia/news/588116-admiral-kuznecov-kran),
    dated Dec. 28 of 2018,
    says
    • the crane has been removed (and I hope you know what crane)
    • refurbishing goes according to the plan (for nitpickers who would ask where I got it: работы по ремонту идут по заданному графику)
     
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    That kind of runs counter to the news story I read about how the hull had been pierced on the side and water had to be pumped out. Unless the gash is so above the water line that it can be fixed properly without going into a dry dock.
     
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    The gash was above the waterline as otherwise the ship would have been in worse. That Dry dock was the only Russian dock that could service a ship the size of the Kuznetsov.
     
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    Thanks Gents for the responses..Looks like the Russian Navy aircraft carrier Admiral Kuznetsov will sail again.
     
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    Absolutely. Well put!
    I'll add that the spin doctors have worked overtime trying to make out its the Russians that's doing the dangerous manoeuvring. And the US and Canadian bravely confronted them and chased them off!
    I wonder what they would've said if this was the other way round!
     
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