@Jura , @Air Force Brat @Timmymagic And @TerraN_EmpirE (IE myself) Have gotten in to a bit of a back and forth because of the effects of Hurricane Michael that just destroyed Tyndall Airforce base on the Florida Panhandle. This debate however is OT to the Aircraft carriers III thread. So I ask the moderators to spin it off here. Some of Those posts can be found here. Others in the US military news and F22 threads. This is not a unique occurrence as can be pointed out with the loss of military aircraft by the JSDF in The 2011 Tsunami. "TerraN_EmpirE, post: 526817, member: 40" "Timmymagic, post: 526851, member: 12034" "TerraN_EmpirE, post: 526853, member: 40" "Jura, post: 527017, member: 10559" "TerraN_EmpirE, post: 527031, member: 40" "Jura, post: 527037, member: 10559" "TerraN_EmpirE, post: 527039, member: 40" "Air Force Brat, post: 527042, member: 7942" "TerraN_EmpirE, post: 527043, "Air Force Brat, post: 527047, member: 7942" "TerraN_EmpirE, post: 527050, member: 40" "Jura, post: 527057, member: 10559 I find your response is best countered by your own response Brat brought American politics in better or worse. However Fact is it was the previous administration "Hoped and Changed" things in 2012 when they consolidated operations to Tyndall. But I am not looking to place Blame unlike you seem to. Tyndall had no history of being a Hurricane magnet since it's opening in 1941! Calling it a Slovenliness Risk is ungrounded as any air base along the Gulf and Eastern Atlantic coast line has a potential for being struck by a Huricaine. Same for any Army, Navy or Marines facilities. The same I might add for any Pacific coastal base with regards to Typhoons save perhaps for Alaska but there severe earth quakes are a reality. Heck the PRC reclaimed bases Could be wiped out by a visious Typhoons season or strong Tsunami. Military bases are regularly struck by the risk of weather but they have to operate. It's a calculated risk.