Power Armor?

TerraN_EmpirE

Tyrant King
Re read my post Blue because as I pick yours apart there are two critical weakness in your post I am going to attack,,.. actual three
Doubt it, the SF
heavy infantry that went into the battlefield which was less mobile but had more power and more survivable then line and/or light infantry.

In symmetric warfare
US Socom is not a true Symmetrical combat unit. It's made of units loaned by there host services that include some Symmetrical elements Rangers, Seals, Marine Special Operations Regiment aka Raiders but then you have decidedly Asymmetrical units Us Army Combat Applications Group ( delta), US Navy Development group ( seal team 6) these units are decidedly operating in a different mode then conventional military forces. TALOS or Tactical Assault Light Operator Suit is envisioned to have full-body armor,
Reduced impact of load by intelligent weight distribution throughout the body.
Low power requirement.
Low suit profile to fit under the existing uniform comfortably.
Provide sensor cues to soldiers to reduce injuries.
Integrated components to provide joint support where user needs it most.
Reapply energy to enhance the efficiency of motion and improve overall metabolics.
Remain compliant and flexible, stiffening only when needed.
Have the suit weigh less than 400 lb (180 kg) and generate 12 kW of power for 12 hours.
given these and the story told by Adm. William McRaven it seems like the aim is for Short Urban assaults. particularly breaching.
 

kwaigonegin

Colonel
Re read my post Blue because as I pick yours apart there are two critical weakness in your post I am going to attack,,.. actual three
US Socom is not a true Symmetrical combat unit. It's made of units loaned by there host services that include some Symmetrical elements Rangers, Seals, Marine Special Operations Regiment aka Raiders but then you have decidedly Asymmetrical units Us Army Combat Applications Group ( delta), US Navy Development group ( seal team 6) these units are decidedly operating in a different mode then conventional military forces. TALOS or Tactical Assault Light Operator Suit is envisioned to have full-body armor,
Reduced impact of load by intelligent weight distribution throughout the body.
Low power requirement.
Low suit profile to fit under the existing uniform comfortably.
Provide sensor cues to soldiers to reduce injuries.
Integrated components to provide joint support where user needs it most.
Reapply energy to enhance the efficiency of motion and improve overall metabolics.
Remain compliant and flexible, stiffening only when needed.
Have the suit weigh less than 400 lb (180 kg) and generate 12 kW of power for 12 hours.
given these and the story told by Adm. William McRaven it seems like the aim is for Short Urban assaults. particularly breaching.

Yeah, what TE said. USSOCOM is actually quite large and comprises many different units and detachments from various other organizations. The ones u see or read about .. Or not ... are the JSOC operators which is a subset of SOCOM. Most likely those guys won't be wearing any large bulky systems however USSOCOM In general May find some of these systems useful in certain applications.
 

TerraN_EmpirE

Tyrant King
US Army Labs Test DARPA's Load-Lightening Exosuits
Dec. 1, 2014 - 03:45AM | By KEVIN LILLEY |
The futuristic exosuits being tested by US Army researchers won't help soldiers outrun locomotives, and it'll still take more than a single bound to clear a tall building.

But a final prototype of the device, which could cut a wearer's exertion level by 25 percent when carrying a 100-pound load and might let an unburdened soldier run a four-minute mile, could be tested in a realistic setting in less than two years, according to Maj. Christopher Orlowski, who runs the program under the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency's banner.

DARPA's Warrior Web initiative spans the entire military, but much of the testing for the four prototypes in the program's second phase, and the nine prototypes that made up Phase I, has been hosted by the Soldier Performance and Equipment Advanced Research facility — SPEAR, for short — at Maryland's Aberdeen Proving Ground.

"I'm exposed to a lot of really cool technology that not everyone gets to see," said Mike LaFiandra, chief of the Dismounted Warrior Branch at the Army Research Laboratory. "Big-picture, we're really at an exciting time. The technological advancements that are happening ... I can see 10 years or 15 years from now, this not only being a soldier device, but helping soldiers who are injured, once they get back."

Three years after Warrior Web's inception, soldier-testers are taking the prototypes out of the lab and onto a cross-country course, walking through the woods with an 80-pound pack. While researchers tag along, testers report any perceived benefits from the suit, as well as any problems with comfort or ease of wear — chafing, for example.

Feedback from testers has been positive, DARPA and Army officials said, especially after the soldiers have time to get used to wearing the devices. But comfort isn't the only issue under review, and the data analysis required to gauge the performance of such suits may be a heavier lift than the packs being lugged around the Aberdeen woods.

Precision performance

Rules for what the prototypes must look like are flexible to allow for innovation, but the final version likely will resemble a wet suit, only with a system attached designed to deliver the right force to the right muscle or joint at the right time to ease a soldier's workload.

The Soft Exosuit prototype, designed by a team from the Wyss Institute for Biologically Inspired Engineering at Harvard, uses a series of pulleys to simulate leg movement. It focuses on supporting the hip and ankle joints; "if you look at the biomechanics of walking," program leader Conor Walsh said, "you see that those two joints are doing most of the work."

Because of the weight and wattage limitations put on the system by DARPA, researchers must find ways to benefit the wearer without excess power.

"We're trying to understand what are the most efficient times in the walking cycle to add energy," Walsh said. "Do we really understand those moments?"

The prototype underwent testing in Aberdeen in early October. The last of the prototypes scheduled for this round of testing, an Arizona State product known as Air Legs that'll visit the lab in either December or January, uses air pressure instead of pulleys.

Makers of Air Legs told CBS News in a Nov. 11 report they had been able to reduce exertion, or "metabolic load," by 10 percent so far, and that reaching the 25 percent threshold would mean a soldier wearing the device could run a mile in four minutes.

Track times aren't part of the DARPA metrics. Walsh said the Harvard group's prototype has "seen muscle activity being reduced in the key areas, and we've seen positive effect in the metabolic areas," but couldn't put a number to the findings.

The difficulty in finding those metabolic-load data points is part of the reason soldiers shouldn't expect a rapid roll-out of these suits, according to the experts.

"The way everyone walks is slightly different," LaFiandra said. "Maybe a previous injury, maybe the amount of experience you have walking with a load. ... There's a tremendous amount of individual variability. Merely putting this device on one or two people, with or without a load, and comparing those numbers, is insufficient."

DARPA's stated goal is to build a device that can be worn under the uniform by 90 percent of the Army, so getting the variations right is critical. And even if the device can adapt to its user, researchers must determine the proper training protocol so the user can adapt to the device.

It's the kind of research that can't be done entirely in university labs.

"Standard college students aren't experienced in carrying 100 pounds in a backpack," LaFiandra said.

Making the grade

Improving performance is only one of five focus areas for the program, according to a 2013 DARPA announcement. The others:

■ Advanced controls: Suits that can "function without intervention by the wearer" and correct for when the wearer's stride changes — walking to running or kneeling to crawling, for instance.

■ Wearability: Suits that remain lightweight, cool and comfortable despite performance-enhancing add-ons, and can sense and process biometrics without external computer power.

■ Safety: Suits that lend stability to joints and help muscles with a soldier's typical burdens, both of which could limit chronic injuries.

■ Grab bag: Suits with what DARPA calls "additional assistive wearable technologies," which could be used to aid wearers undergoing rehabilitation or physical therapy, for example, or even help the elderly remain mobile.

All prototypes must tackle at least three focus areas, according to the statement, with "full-suit" entries needing to address all but the final, miscellaneous category. And the competition's end is in sight.

"DARPA plans to test the final prototype in appropriate mission profiles under realistic loads to evaluate performance," Orlowski, the program manager, said in an emailed response to questions. "These tests are currently planned for late 2016."

Once the technology is in place, which soldiers receive the exosuits and how they use them becomes the Army's problem — Orlowski said DARPA will "leave it up to the services to determine specific operational uses." Suits that pass the types of tests done in Aberdeen and meet the program's requirements would benefit most any soldier carrying any gear in any operational environment.

"Twenty or 30 years ago, it may have seemed far-fetched," LaFiandra said. "When I look at the Warrior Web prototypes, I don't think it's far-fetched. I think it's a matter of time."
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by78

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TerraN_EmpirE

Tyrant King
The first three seem to have a load assistance device like a shoulder mounted crane. There was a similar device on some of the Lockheed Martin Hulc. They are intended to allow for lifting heavy weight objects. Like large artillery shells or pallets of water or food. If the PLA was aiming for just logistics use then those devices would be on all of the exosuits. However then we have the other images and they show more movement and lack the lift harness. This means that the PLA research team may not be limiting itself to the end game of logistics services and may be aiming for combat applications.
This system looks very very similar to Lockheed Martin's Hulc, which Last time I saw it had a added steady cam arm for mounting a medium machine gun. Wouldn't be surprised if we see it coming at the next major arms fair sporting a type 88 Lmg
 
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TerraN_EmpirE

Tyrant King
That is a possibility, Lockheed Martin's demonstrator was photographed in similar settings for the pamphlet they made for the Hulc. That said a exosuit is a potential force multiplly-er for a Varity of terrain and combat environments. Mountain, Urban, rural, jungle, desert and potentially beyond.
 

Blitzo

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That is a possibility, Lockheed Martin's demonstrator was photographed in similar settings for the pamphlet they made for the Hulc. That said a exosuit is a potential force multiplly-er for a Varity of terrain and combat environments. Mountain, Urban, rural, jungle, desert and potentially beyond.

not included in by78's post, are a variety of simple computer generated clips from the same video depicting PLA soldiers equipped with the exoskeleton suit armed with weapons and heavy loads doing patrol in mountainous terrain and kneeling in firing position.
 
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