PLAN Type 035/039/091/092 Submarine Thread

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From what I have read, the LA class is not noted for being a major step forward in sound reduction over the Sturgeon/Thresher. Rather, its just a bigger, faster, more capable sub.

Aren't the Ohios and Seawolfs the most quiet subs in the USN?
 

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Wouldn't the Yuan Class AIP SSG be even quieter than the Seawolfs ? This would be consistent with the broad framework of the PLA's asymmetrical warfare strategy .
Not from what people who know a lot more about submarine than I do have told me. And besides, even if the quietest diesel subs are quieter than seawolf, that would only be for stationary. As soon as they get up to 5 knot, nuclear subs would be quieter.
 

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I'm reading from someone's blog on some Chinese web site. He basically said that the 094 pictures we saw are actually 092 with upgrades that were built in the early 90s with a total of 2 copies. The real 094 was built in and still hiding in a cave some where. He also mentions the 096 also in some cave.
 
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That blog is BS. You can see from the shape of the sail and the pattern of the sink holes that the 094 is clearly derived from the 093, as both are identical except the 094 is stretched to add the turtle back.
 

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I'm reading from someone's blog on some Chinese web site. He basically said that the 094 pictures we saw are actually 092 with upgrades that were built in the early 90s with a total of 2 copies. The real 094 was built in and still hiding in a cave some where. He also mentions the 096 also in some cave.

nonsense
 

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I'm reading from someone's blog on some Chinese web site. He basically said that the 094 pictures we saw are actually 092 with upgrades that were built in the early 90s with a total of 2 copies. The real 094 was built in and still hiding in a cave some where. He also mentions the 096 also in some cave.

I also saw a blog claim J-10B is superior to F-22A. It can supercruise 2.4M, combat radius 4000km. Can engage enemy aircaft 500km away with super PL-20 and its super AESA. You must believe me,ok? :roll:
 

jackbh

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Are you saying there is no chance that the PLA could have some equipment hiding in secret? Are you saying the public has seen everything that the PLA has ever built? Are you saying the PLA just parks their number 1 ssbn nuclear deterrent will within the public views which docks at a pier next to sunny beach resorts where anyone could take pictures without thinking that might be what they want you to see to deceive you?

Please don't post a post that says nonsense because that is really nonsense.
 
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Are you saying there is no chance that the PLA could have some equipment hiding in secret? Are you saying the public has seen everything that the PLA has ever built? Are you saying the PLA just parks their number 1 ssbn nuclear deterrent will within the public views which docks at a pier next to sunny beach resorts where anyone could take pictures without thinking that might be what they want you to see to deceive you?

Please don't post a post that says nonsense because that is really nonsense.
Well he made a point.

But what you're saying makes some sense too. Besides who knows how the PLA works, they probably have the 096 being made as we speak.

No need to be so touchy.
 

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Are you saying there is no chance that the PLA could have some equipment hiding in secret? Are you saying the public has seen everything that the PLA has ever built? Are you saying the PLA just parks their number 1 ssbn nuclear deterrent will within the public views which docks at a pier next to sunny beach resorts where anyone could take pictures without thinking that might be what they want you to see to deceive you?

Please don't post a post that says nonsense because that is really nonsense.


They made that base in the first place without thinking that somewhere along the line, people would make the areas next to it a public resort. So, the subs are stuck living in that situation. The subs to the north have bases that are better covered, but still we get a few pictures once in a while. Seems to me nothing can fully control a camera phone.

If you look at Google Earth, all the sub bases can be spotted from satellite.

Insist all you want. But those subs are 094 and simply cannot be based on the 092 because the physical structure of the 094 subs spotted are clearly aligned to that of the 093, not the 092. This is a matter of clear physical evidence. As a matter of fact, the limber hole lines of the 092 and the 093 are quite distinct from each other, and so are the sails. The 094 is an extended version of the 093 with a turtleback for the missiles.
 
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