North Korea about to launch Taepodong-2

Baibar of Jalat

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FAS and Global Security pretty much say that NK/Iranian missile programs are infact one.

Yep many of these countries share know how, which is understanable due to how expensive and time consuming it is to develop 100% self made and self researched programme.
 

Finn McCool

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Warships set sail ahead of N. Korean launch
By HYUNG-JIN KIM, Associated Press Writer Hyung-jin Kim, Associated Press Writer – 43 mins ago
SEOUL, South Korea – Japanese, South Korean and U.S. missile-destroying ships set sail to monitor North Korea's imminent rocket launch, as Pyongyang stoked tensions Monday by detaining a South Korean worker for allegedly denouncing the North's political system.

North Korea says it will send up a communications satellite into orbit sometime between April 4 and 8. The U.S., South Korea and Japan suspect the regime is using the launch to test its long-range missile technology, warning it would face U.N. sanctions under a Security Council resolution banning the country from any ballistic activity.

North Korea has threatened to quit international disarmament talks on its nuclear programs if punished with sanctions. The country's main Rodong Sinmun newspaper reiterated that warning Sunday, saying the talks will "completely collapse" if taken to the Security Council.

Further heightening tensions on the divided peninsula, North Korean authorities detained a South Korean worker at a joint industrial zone in the North for allegedly denouncing Pyongyang's political system and inciting female northern workers to flee the communist country.

North Korea assured Seoul it would guarantee the man's safety during an investigation, according to the South Korean Unification Ministry, which handles relations with the North.

The detention comes as two American journalists working for former Vice President Al Gore's Current TV media venture remain in North Korean custody after allegedly crossing the border illegally from China on March 17.

Late Monday, the North also threatened to take an unspecified "resolute countermeasure" against South Korea if it joins a U.S.-led international campaign aimed at stopping the spread of weapons of mass destruction.

South Korea has only been an observer to the Proliferation Security Initiative, but Seoul officials recently said they were considering fully joining the program after the North's rocket launch.

Seoul's participation would be treated as "a declaration of a war," Pyongyang's Committee for the Peaceful Reunification of Korea said in a statement carried by the official Korean Central News Agency.

In preparation for the rocket launch, Japan deployed Patriot missiles around Tokyo and sent warships armed with interceptors to the waters between Japan and the Korean peninsula as a precaution, defense officials said.

Two U.S. destroyers anchored at a South Korean port after holding military exercises with the South Korean navy also are believed to have departed for waters near North Korea to monitor the rocket launch.

The USS McCain and the USS Chafee left Busan on Monday, a U.S. military spokesman said. He declined to disclose their destination and spoke on condition of anonymity, saying he was not authorized to discuss the ships' routes.

South Korea also is dispatching its Aegis-equipped destroyer, according to a Seoul military official who asked not to be named, citing department policy.

All of the warships — of South Korea, Japan and the U.S. — are equipped with sophisticated combat systems enabling them to track and shoot down enemy missiles. However, leaders of all three countries have indicated it's unlikely the warships will respond militarily to the North's launch.

South Korean President Lee Myung-bak said in an interview with the Financial Times published Monday that his government opposes any military response to the North's launch, saying that would be unhelpful in talks on dismantling North Korea's nuclear program.

In Washington, U.S. Defense Secretary Robert Gates said in a TV interview aired Sunday that the U.S. has no plans to intercept the North Korean rocket but might consider it if an "aberrant missile" were headed to Hawaii "or something like that."

Japan had earlier hinted that it might shoot down the rocket, but now says it will only fire interceptors if debris from a failed launch appears likely to hit Japanese territory.

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Associated Press writer Mari Yamaguchi contributed to this report from Tokyo.

USN ships are moving in to position to give them the option to intercept the missle with the SM-3 when it is launched. Hopefully they don't intercept it. But we might see a demonstration of the SM-3's actual ABM capability here.
 

SampanViking

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USN ships are moving in to position to give them the option to intercept the missle with the SM-3 when it is launched. Hopefully they don't intercept it. But we might see a demonstration of the SM-3's actual ABM capability here.

I sincerely hope that nobody is actually that stupid. Fortunately the rhetoric coming out of both Washington and Tokyo is that they have no intention of trying to shoot down the missile, unless it is obviously out of control and on a collision trajectory with their own territory.

Personally I cannot say that I am in any hurry to see Korean War II.
 

Finn McCool

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I sincerely hope that nobody is actually that stupid. Fortunately the rhetoric coming out of both Washington and Tokyo is that they have no intention of trying to shoot down the missile, unless it is obviously out of control and on a collision trajectory with their own territory.

Personally I cannot say that I am in any hurry to see Korean War II.

A second Korean War is not something that the US and Japan wanted to see when the geopolitical economic situation was much more tilted in their favor; given the US's current economic and strategic difficulties I seriously doubt that anyone in their right mind in Washington wants to start a war.

Except of course for those RAND Corp nuts who think attacking Iran would pull us out of this recession, but like I said, "in their right minds".
 
Well in the case that North Korea initiates hostilities in response to an intercept of their rocket, I believe intervention on the part of China will be highly unlikely.
 

The_Zergling

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Perhaps the most frustrating thing about this is that regardless of the test result, it will provide rhetorical ammunition for right-wing Japanese nationalists trying to change Article 9...
 

Undead Yogurt

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Reality check, guys. The odds of NK starting any kind of significant military conflict is miniscule. In fact, I would LOVE to see their little missile shot down by Japan or the US, then will the world see clearly the paper tiger that is NK, because there would be absolutely nothing NK can do about it except throw a hissy fit and make even more empty threats.
 

Mr T

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Personally I cannot say that I am in any hurry to see Korean War II.

I would bet hard money that there would be no war if the missile was shot down.

As I've said before, the North Koreans are all mouth and no trousers - especially because this time they know they can't rely on the Chinese.

Regardless, it does provide public support for Japan to boost its military spending and possibly amend its constitution. North Korea may be internally weak, but that doesn't mean it wont trigger and arms race in the region.

Japan has frozen or cut its military spending for years. Remember North Korea fired a missile over it about a decade ago. Where was the noticeable boost in spending then? I could be wrong, but I don't remember one.

Given Pyongyang's belligerence over the years if Japan was going to use North Korean hostility to justify more military spending it would have done so long ago.

Perhaps the most frustrating thing about this is that regardless of the test result, it will provide rhetorical ammunition for right-wing Japanese nationalists trying to change Article 9...

I don't see why - they've banged on about it for years. Japan has grown fat on North Korean threats and changed relatively little in response.

I don't see Article 9 being amended any time in the foreseeable future, partly because it's not necessary to manage current Japanese security concerns. What the politicians are more interested in doing is bringing in a permanent law to allow a dispatch of the SDF to support international peacekeeping and the like.
 
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Finn McCool

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As I've said before, the North Koreans are all mouth and no trousers - especially because this time they know they can't rely on the Chinese.

It would be far more likely that in the event of a war the Chinese would intervene/use their influence to remove Kim or whoever is in charge and put someone more acceptable in power. I wouldn't find it hard to believe that the Chinese have paid agents in high places in the NK government that could execute a coup.
 

Scratch

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We're getting closer to the showdown. Everything in NK seems to be on track. Especially Japan is prepping up it's defences. The coming days will be pretty tense.

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North Korea Rocket Launch on Track

Determined to demonstrate its latest missile technology both to its adversaries and perhaps to potential buyers in the Middle East, North Korea pressed ahead with final preparations on Friday to launch a multistage rocket.

The countdown could begin as early as Saturday morning, and North Korea says its rocket will blast off sometime between then and Wednesday. It warned aircraft to stay clear of its easterly trajectory over northern Japan, toward the Pacific.

Weather forecasts say it will be cloudy with no strong winds over the Musudan-ri launching site on North Korea’s coast, meaning the North could launch the rocket anytime during the period.

“I think it’s almost certain North Korea will fire the missile,” President Lee Myung-bak of South Korea said Friday in London, where he had attended the Group of 20 summit, Reuters reported. Mr. Lee vowed a “strong and stern response.”

North Korea says it is launching an experimental communications satellite. But Washington and its allies see the test as a provocative demonstration of ballistic missile technology and an attempt to secure a place on President Obama’s crowded foreign policy agenda. ...
 
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