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plawolf

Lieutenant General
Heard a crazy conspiracy theory just now:
Suppose EU and China want to suddenly ditch the dollar and switch to trading with their own currencies ala Brazil, in a "En tu, Brute?" moment.
Who will need to visit Beijing and talk to Xi to make this happen?
  • Scholz (he's already been)
  • Macron (on the way)
  • von der Leyen (on the way)
  • Pedro Sánchez (on the way)
  • Giorgia Meloni (on the way in May)
  • Charles Michel
  • Josep Borrell
Anyone else? Baerbock isn't really required but would be useful if you want to conduct this grand conspiracy.
Seems unlikely but crazier things have happened in history.

You are about 20 years and one Great War too early for that

Eurotrash politicians don’t have the coordination or vision or autonomy for such grand plays in the game.

The US made damn such the EU is fragmented, bogged down in red tape and riddled with US agents and useful idiots to such an extent it cannot make any substantive decisions without US approval.

Individual EU countries can still make big moves themselves, but not the EU as a whole, as that would require countless rounds of endless debates and votes and then need to be ratified by each and every member state.

Thus, the only way the EU can change sides is if the US was utter shattered and broken that the writing on the wall is big and bold enough for even the myopic inbred idiots stuffing the EU halls of power to see clearly.

China had hoped that the EU’s own bloat, rigidity, need for consensus and red tape would also apply in the EU in terms of taking the US’ side in any Sino-US clash. But the speed at which the EU fell into line behind the US on Ukraine probably woke them up from that delusion.

China would not have entered into a de facto alliance with Russia if it still harboured any hope for even a neutral EU.

China will still focus on the US, but it’s not going to do the EU any favours in the meantime. The best the EU can hope for is that China won’t active rug pull them. Because China isn’t as stupid or arrogant as the US to go out of its way to start a two front war. But the position of the EU as assumed enemy to China is now basically taken as a given. China won’t actively attack the EU, overtly at least, but it’s not going to do it any favours.

I think all these visits from EU countries and officials are more about China keeping their enemies close and not tipping its hand too blatantly. Q
 

BoraTas

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Friendly reminder: Taiwan actually pays other countries to keep the recognition of ROC, it pays foreign politicians to visit it, and it also pays right wing think tanks in the USA to write anti-china articles.

It is so bad that sometimes people demand money from Taiwan to not change their stance
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And can't these guys see the implications of accusing ordinary Chinese of being CCP assets for themselves?
 

Temstar

Brigadier
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Friendly reminder: Taiwan actually pays other countries to keep the recognition of ROC, it pays foreign politicians to visit it, and it also pays right wing think tanks in the USA to write anti-china articles.

It is so bad that sometimes people demand money from Taiwan to not change their stance
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And can't these guys see the implications of accusing ordinary Chinese of being CCP assets for themselves?
I think Paraguay and Honduras demanding more money is entirely within reason. All these years these countries that recognizes ROC see their neighbors get BRI investment and new infrastructure while they got a pittance in comparison. Then last year with Lithuania ROC gave them a billion dollars and Lithuania didn't even recognizance ROC, just let them have a "Taiwanese Affairs Office". If you were one of those 13 you too would be upset at that unequal treatment and demand a billion.
 

BoraTas

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I think Paraguay and Honduras demanding more money is entirely within reason. All these years these countries that recognizes ROC see their neighbors get BRI investment and new infrastructure while they got a pittance in comparison. Then last year with Lithuania ROC gave them a billion dollars and Lithuania didn't even recognizance ROC, just let them have a "Taiwanese Affairs Office". If you were one of those 13 you too would be upset at that unequal treatment and demand a billion.
So a complete lack of political insight isn't limited to their liberals
 

BlackWindMnt

Captain
Registered Member
Friendly reminder: Taiwan actually pays other countries to keep the recognition of ROC, it pays foreign politicians to visit it, and it also pays right wing think tanks in the USA to write anti-china articles.

It is so bad that sometimes people demand money from Taiwan to not change their stance
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And can't these guys see the implications of accusing ordinary Chinese of being CCP assets for themselves?
All i can conclude out of this is China is the biggest economy $200 per protestors/"gangster"...
What was the rate A4 protest or Hongkong protest wasn't it like $50~80.

Maybe the hong kong protestors heard about this $200 rate and though i should get to the US it pays better.
Im even willing to cross the jungle.
 

emblem21

Major
Registered Member
You are about 20 years and one Great War too early for that

Eurotrash politicians don’t have the coordination or vision or autonomy for such grand plays in the game.

The US made damn such the EU is fragmented, bogged down in red tape and riddled with US agents and useful idiots to such an extent it cannot make any substantive decisions without US approval.

Individual EU countries can still make big moves themselves, but not the EU as a whole, as that would require countless rounds of endless debates and votes and then need to be ratified by each and every member state.

Thus, the only way the EU can change sides is if the US was utter shattered and broken that the writing on the wall is big and bold enough for even the myopic inbred idiots stuffing the EU halls of power to see clearly.

China had hoped that the EU’s own bloat, rigidity, need for consensus and red tape would also apply in the EU in terms of taking the US’ side in any Sino-US clash. But the speed at which the EU fell into line behind the US on Ukraine probably woke them up from that delusion.

China would not have entered into a de facto alliance with Russia if it still harboured any hope for even a neutral EU.

China will still focus on the US, but it’s not going to do the EU any favours in the meantime. The best the EU can hope for is that China won’t active rug pull them. Because China isn’t as stupid or arrogant as the US to go out of its way to start a two front war. But the position of the EU as assumed enemy to China is now basically taken as a given. China won’t actively attack the EU, overtly at least, but it’s not going to do it any favours.

I think all these visits from EU countries and officials are more about China keeping their enemies close and not tipping its hand too blatantly. Q
I think in the event that the USA does collapse into a heap, for Europe to ever have a taste of a normal existence after all is said and done is that they will have to sacrifice all of its pro-US elements including all the agents, NGOs and even leaders and given that the collapse is a matter of time (even if the deagel isn’t entire true which considering how fast Biden is fu@king things up, it might even be sooner), those leaders had better be careful, because there existence is predicated on the strength of the USA. If the USA is strong, they are above the law, if the USA is weak, expect a delivery to the kremlin of any body part of these traitors of any quantity require to get Russia to consider sparing some gas. Given how badly things are looking in Ukraine and how fast dedolarisation is happening, they do have every reason to be nervous, I mean look at Macron, if his position is secure, he would be having a nation literally on fire. Same with Baerbock, after that stupid statement about being at war with Russia, how come she has disappeared for a while instead of repeating her views, is she a coward or something
 

Sardaukar20

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Part of the speech by Malaysian PM, Anwar Ibrahim at the Boao Forum in Hainan, China. He praised the "Socialism with Chinese Characteristics". And he agrees that development and governance must follow the unique circumstances of an individual country. From that value, he and the Malaysian government are introducing the 'Madani Concept' to create a humanistic nation that fits Malaysia's own historic and cultural circumstances.

Whatever we think about Anwar Ibrahim, he is talking to China, and others much more than the West. Even though he did have some involvements with the US NED, his core character is quite aligned with socialism. He has been fighting for the poor and race equality long before he got involved with the NED. He has this strange idea of a hybrid of Islam and socialism that he likes to campaign alot. Maybe one day if he succeeds in getting Malaysia out of its current rut, he could label his idea as "Socialism with Islamic characteristics". LOL.

For progressive Malaysians, PM Anwar is the fresh start that Malaysia needs to break out of the Mahathir shadow that has dominated Malaysian politics since independence. Its a good start, but a long journey, because Mahathir's ideology is old, and still very strong amongst the majority Malay populace. It is Mahathir's racist Malay-supremacy ideology that dominates most of the anti-China crap in Malaysia. The Boba Wanwanese culture is still there, but its power is already starting to wane, and it can only affect a portion of the Malaysian Chinese minority. So its reach is quite small in the grand scheme of things.
 
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