J-10 Thread III (Closed to posting)

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crobato

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Just to put it together ... IMO the detail shots and -even not good in quality - overall views of aircraft 01 are proof enough, that this is a real aircraft.

Regarding that "un-numbered" aircraft from the clearer picture I'm not sure if this is ...

1. a psed standard J-10A with all/most the changes incorporated

or ...

2. a second airframe with a different fit.


I really don't think that these are the same aircraft as ...

- the MAW's are missing
- the formation/slime light on the tail is missing
- the radome is different (at least on both available pictures)
- the IRST/LR is on 01 larger and grey …
- something "happened" to the front-gear ... as to the PL-8 (IMO)
- it doesn't have that "new" wing pylon clearly visible on 01
- the engine's exhaust / afterburner looks like a standard AL-31FN ... in contrast to the other one (even if I would be surprised if CAC would test the WS-10A on a new aircraft !)
- 01 has a "black box" an the rear fuselage (maybe chaff(flare disp.) ... the other one a black dot


So ... let's sit and wait a little bit longer.

Deino ;)


If the second plane is a PS, then all the observations of differences here would then be invalid (e.g. lack of MAWS, AL-31FN nozzle). Only the first plane (marked 01) remains valid.
 

alopes

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Ah right thanks. I think that may be the pylon mentioned by Richard fisher which could hold air to air missiles....

And the first J-10B exhaust's colour and shape is a bit different to the later J-10B exhausts

There isn´t also the possibility that the pictures were taken before and after the mark 01 was painted or tagged in the plane?

The fact that someone could take these pictures from a short distance shows that there wasn´t a total opposition from the company in barring pictures from the first prototype, i suppose.

And for that, the 01 mark was intentional, not casual?
 
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mean_bird

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News reported, hours ago

A J-10 frighter encountered with power-off and the engine stoppage in 1400m height air, The ground control center asked him to eject,but he decided to forced landing . The pilot drive the plane that without power to glide,and land safely. the plane has been damaged, But the pilot are safe.

the report said, this is the first time that J10 met with malfunction in the sky since the j10 equipped in PLAAF.


Is there a possibility it was trying the WS-10A?
 

crobato

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Is it possible that the "01" is merely the DSI inlet number? The prototypes for the J-10A all had their numbers written in large numbers under the cockpit. If the number was meant to signify the prototype aircraft....why write it in small letters on the removable DSI inlet? I mean, you want those numbers to be easily visible, and if you do change the DSI inlet, then you have to repaint the number back on. Which doesn't make sense, because then you would have two "01" prototypes. Maybe the "01" is the DSI inlet number, not the plane number.

Just a thought.

If you look closely, the DSI inlet on "01" and the unmarked prototype appear to be different.

If the unmarked prototype is a PS, its better to keep all analysis strictly on the 01 plane, or you will just get confused with knowledge contamination.
 

mehdi

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Let me add my observations: Why do I see this J-10 version looks like a single engined Su-27????, it looks like it has many features from the Su-27 and the DSI from the JF-17, Hmmm it's very confusing I hope this thing works, as for me it's not the final version perhaps a prototype would be more appropriate.

Mehdi
 

Blitzo

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Let me add my observations: Why do I see this J-10 version looks like a single engined Su-27????, it looks like it has many features from the Su-27 and the DSI from the JF-17, Hmmm it's very confusing I hope this thing works, as for me it's not the final version perhaps a prototype would be more appropriate.

Mehdi
Yeah you're right the photos we're seeing are probably all prototypes.

But how did you get a single engined flanker from the J-10B? I suppose you're talking about the IRST which is similar, but what other similarities do you see?
 

mehdi

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Yeps the engine seems to be the same, I will add a pic.

Let us see.

Mehdi
 

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