Tired of foreign domination of its telecom market share China...

China has a much bigger market than Japan, potential if not already. Not to mention China may be the only major telecom market to see decent growth now. Market sizes play as big a role as tech if not more when trying to push one's preferred standards.
So I'd give China better chance of succeeding in pushing their own standard compared to Japan in the past.

antimatter said:

Well, the phone composed of the chipset, flash memory, dram memory.
Next thing China governement demand is all components should be made in China therefore it would excelerate its semiconductor growth.

CHina's TD-SCDMA chipsets are supplied by Qualcomm, therefore China still lacking. It needs to do its own chipset as well.

Not only semicondcutor, this will also promote its software, firmware development as well.

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See what is the point of having TD-SCDMA if the chipset also has to be imported? Even if they are manufactured in China, licensing means you have to pay a fee per chipset to Qualcomm.

Its better for China to go with the international 3G standards, then mandate local content for the phones, including manufacture of the WCDMA or HSDPA chipsets---which later puts you in the position to export them.

Schumacher said:

China has a much bigger market than Japan, potential if not already. Not to mention China may be the only major telecom market to see decent growth now. Market sizes play as big a role as tech if not more when trying to push one's preferred standards.
So I'd give China better chance of succeeding in pushing their own standard compared to Japan in the past.

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Pushing standards is not the problem. NTT's proprietary protocol did dominate the Japanese telecom industry for a while. But guess where it led. The rest of the world went to GSM, and as a result Japanese celphones were not exportable no matter how well they tried to make them. Nokia, Motorola, Samsung, LG, HTC, Siemens, etc,. took over a market where the Japanese should have been in a good position to take over. Instead its so bad that Sony had to partner with Ericsson. The likes of Panasonic, Hitachi, Sharp still make good decent phones you can buy off a store in Hong Kong, in eBay or mail order, but their catch up attempt on GSM has left them behind and totally lacking in mind share compared to let's say, Samsung.

swimmerXC said:

Haha wow didn't see this coming Sprint is allying up with Palm to target smartphone users now that the new Palm OS and Palm Pre are coming!

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It's looks pretty amazing from all the previews I seen looks like I'm switching to Sprint and not AT&T when the Palm Pre hits the market unless Verizon can make the Blackberry Storm WiFi compatible

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This is very nice.

I wonder what happened to Palm's project called Nova. Its supposed to be another Linux based mobile phone.

crobato said:

This is very nice.

I wonder what happened to Palm's project called Nova. Its supposed to be another Linux based mobile phone.

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Yup this is it, the Palm Pre's OS is based on Linux. Looks like iPhones got a challenger, I love the QWERTY keyboards, personally texting isn't the same on a touchscreen (the Storm is different it push's in so you get that "feel")

swimmerXC said:

Yup this is it, the Palm Pre's OS is based on Linux. Looks like iPhones got a challenger, I love the QWERTY keyboards, personally texting isn't the same on a touchscreen (the Storm is different it push's in so you get that "feel")

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Ah that sounds good. I got a soft spot for Linux even though its not practical for me. Less proprietary domination, the more open standards, the better.

Seems like its also a shot across the bow against the Google Phone which seemed to be selling okay.

only three reasons:
government spending (prolly what Wen is thinkin)
national security (prolly what Wen is saying)
individual benefit (prolly what Li Peng's daughter is thinkin LOL)

well i wouldnt say domination, as their are lots of good quality Chinese branded mobiles on the market, which large domestic population consumes. the pricing of domestic mobiles is way below those of Nokia, Ericson, Moto. You can get a touchscreen, 3G, GPS mobile for $US 60 while if you were to purchase simular functions in western nations you be looking in the hundreds. the main chinese brands are K-Touch and Gionee.

I've made a short study on the Chinese telecom market. I'm not sure where this 'foreign domination' comes from. Except for the TD-SCDMA business, much of what China has done is pretty correct. They opened up the market to the likes of Sony-Ericsson, Motorola, Nortel, Cisco, Lucent, Alcatel (now combined together as Alcatel-Lucent) and Siemens, to help develop infrastructure which led to some being the best in the world.

And as the result of this fierce competition, China has produced not one, but two world class telecom equipment companies in the form of Huawei and ZTE, companies that experience massive year to year sales gains and are selling and installing equipment even in the European home turf. The routers and equipment produced by both companies are rightly at the cutting edge with the rest of the world. Huawei is now the world's fastest growing telecom company, and it entered the big five last year. Before the end of the decade it may probably take the 4th spot off Alcatel-Lucent.

The result of the government fumbling on the TD-SCDMA thing is that China from the stand point of infrastructure, is late in adding 3G infrastructure, even though Huawei and ZTE has been busy adding CDMA2000 and HSDPA networks in other countries. Now that the bag is opened, with TD-SCDMA taking a bit of an egg in the face, you got contracts all over for CDMA2000 (aka EV-DO) and HSDPA (aka W-CDMA). Again, Huawei and ZTE took contracts, but there's not lack of it for the foreign companies either.

Its good to read through this website to see how dynamic the telecom and IT markets in China.

Interesting bit of news, though a few months old.



China Mobile Will Cooperate With HTC To Launch Android-based TD-SCDMA Handsets
October 7, 2008 | Print | Email | Category: Telecom & Wireless
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According to reports in Taiwan media, China Mobile (CHL) will cooperate with the Taiwan-based High Tech Computer, the maker of the T-Mobile G1, to develop a type of Android-based TD-SCDMA handset.

Although the news has not been confirmed by China Mobile, it is expected that the TD-SCDMA handset based on the Android platform will be different from HTC's G1 products. China Mobile originally planned to offer an Android-platform handset that was based on the open mobile system in China by the end of 2008. However, because of the development of OMS applications have not been completed on schedule, the company decided to cooperate with HTC to launch an Android handset first as an alternative.

The launch of the Android-platform OMS handset will be probably postponed to the second quarter of 2009.

The Open Handset Alliance, a group of more than 30 technology and mobile companies who have come together to accelerate innovation in mobile technologies, have developed Android. Google is a big player in this alliance and has posted copious amounts of data on its website for software developers to take advantage of the platform's features.