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sumdud

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Aren't all three basically the same in internal design? Type 03 was a backup for 95s in case if bullpups became a problem. I don't know if 03 has more plastic than 95 or not, and I don't know how 95s are field stripped, but if you look at Type 81/87 with 03, I want to ask, can you run over a 03 and still shoot it? We know the Russians test their guns this way, but does China? I trust the 87 because it is unibody; 03 isn't.
 

PrOeLiTeZ

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Aren't all three basically the same in internal design? Type 03 was a backup for 95s in case if bullpups became a problem. I don't know if 03 has more plastic than 95 or not, and I don't know how 95s are field stripped, but if you look at Type 81/87 with 03, I want to ask, can you run over a 03 and still shoot it? We know the Russians test their guns this way, but does China? I trust the 87 because it is unibody; 03 isn't.
Basically the T87 internal mechanisms were kept and retained in the T03 and T95, their are videos and images from some mainland china sources that show you field stripped T95, and it seems it does has less plastic parts then T03....

Running over by truck hmm dunno.....its said by the chinese that T95 is mean't to be as comparable as the Kalashnikova, its seen taking extreme abuse being virtually dugg into sand and mud with its barrel and ejection ports filled with dirt....and it still fires...
 

sumdud

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Well, given that the systems are similar to each other and to the AK, I'd expect that, especially when these are piston systems not M16-tubes. You can probably do this with a TW T91 (Just for a comparison) or G36 and they would still work. What I worry about is body, not the bullet systems. If your gun goes into a coma when you manage to drop it (as a former soldier in here said for the M4) than that gun simply sucks. Warfare is rough and if your gun cant even take a drop, (and I fear this is the fate of 03 because when field stripped, it is sorta like the M16, w/ 2 receivers) then it sucks, end of sentence.
 

PrOeLiTeZ

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ok i know that china basic training are only taught to be right sided shooters but does china advance training for rru, specs ops and marines teach their troops to shoot from the left? im begining to question if chinese troops can even shoot from their left or are even bothered to be taught. since their rifles are only a right side only. most bullpups allow partial deassembly to switch from right to left side ejection port. but the t-95 only has one sided ejetion port, it cant be that much of a bother to design the rifle for partial deassembly to allow multi sided shooting, or cost too much either.

another factor from all videos ive seen chinese snipers EXTREMELY differently to western snipers. the are mostly seen at target ranges shooting at 400m, targets are always stationary and never moving. and they mostly operate as a single person unit without a spotter.
 

batskcab

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another factor from all videos ive seen chinese snipers EXTREMELY differently to western snipers. the are mostly seen at target ranges shooting at 400m, targets are always stationary and never moving. and they mostly operate as a single person unit without a spotter.

Spotters are not a western theme. Spotters are optional and it is apart of some sniper units and not apart of others, spotters does seem to be quite common with American forces.

The chinese "snipers" might not be a sniper at all. A sniper usually works with stealth and fieldcraft, which are its most important trait. A good shot amongst a infantry platoon or section makes the person a "sharpshooter" that conducts long range precision shooting.

That may or may not be what you were refering to, links to videos can clear up the matter.
 
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