Modern Carrier Battle Group..Strategies and Tactics

Re: How Do You Sink A Carrier?

Totoro said:

One'd have to devise a way to slow down the container carrying the torpedo before it hits the water. And we're talking about slowing down from several mach speed to a parachute glide speed. You'd need a lot of altitude for such a slowdown, which means longer wait time, easier target and so on. Plus the torpedo would have to drop into the water fairly close by, as by then the fleet my very well be alerted and could be steaming at 30 knots away from it.

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Very true, the deceleration is the most important difficulty, I was thinking maybe the top part of the missle falls of at several thousand feet, I don't know. Although maybe slowing it down isn't quite so important. Just let it fall in some sort of protected container that then falls away in the water. It could be possible, I mean it's done in the opposite direction (sort of) with SLBMs.

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Finn McCool said:

Very true, the deceleration is the most important difficulty, I was thinking maybe the top part of the missle falls of at several thousand feet, I don't know. Although maybe slowing it down isn't quite so important. Just let it fall in some sort of protected container that then falls away in the water. It could be possible, I mean it's done in the opposite direction (sort of) with SLBMs.

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Water can be an very unique substance; if you hit it too fast, nothing can survive. It has a tendency to not like being compressed as it will push back hard.

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unbroken water acts like concrete anything hitting with velocity will literally shatter upon impact.

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How about a long range torpedo with nuclear warhead?

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you dont need nukes to take out Carrier, it is both ineffective and costly. nukes require expansion of splitting of atoms in atmosphere, water is dense and thus prohibits the free movement of atoms splitting as effective as if it were in the air. You wouldve notice by now the increase in importance Chinese airforce has gone through in desiging anti-shipping missles and their platforms. With dedicated surface to surface and air to surface anti-shipping methods you would see that China favours more then the torpedo.

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How about a ballistic missile that carries multiple AShMs instead of warheads?

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wdl1976 said:

How about a long range torpedo with nuclear warhead?

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How about we start a nuclear war that leads to Armageddon?

AssassinsMace said:

How about a ballistic missile that carries multiple AShMs instead of warheads?

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The USN is well trained and well prepared in dealing with saturation attacks... you are going to need at least the entire PLA Air Force in order to potentially saturate a CVBG enough to inflict some damage.

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AssassinsMace said:

How about a ballistic missile that carries multiple AShMs instead of warheads?

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if you mean srbm intended for carrier destruction, then my answer would be...no...the carrier wont be sitting pretty in one spot it'll be moving constantly...with ballistic missle you cannot obtain an accurate target area that is accurate to the degree that it will land on the carrier...ballistic missle landing area is approixmation, given an area of calculated possible strike location it'll land somwhere within. that is unless china can make them extremely accurate.

i don't see how even a well trained and armed force can protect their carrier from a saturated attack it is near impossible...the multiple head ballistic missle if enough is lobbied would overthrough the handling capacity of intercepting system...and if it was and aerial bombardment then i dont see why the whole PLAAF inventory must go in since most of the platforms aren't capable to launch the weapons nor can they reach it.

one of lin bao saying was "hit the enemy where they feel safe," nothing is full proof or safe.

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There are enough incidents of where single missiles have gone undetected to believe no one, even the mighty USN, can fully defend themselves from AShMs. So there are holes in defenses that aren't being advertised.

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AssassinsMace said:

There are enough incidents of where single missiles have gone undetected to believe no one, even the mighty USN, can fully defend themselves from AShMs. So there are holes in defenses that aren't being advertised.

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Most of those incidents are through negligence or serious mistakes being made that would not otherwise be made under combat conditions.