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New Delhi: Specialised elements of a Strike Corps have reached Ladakh and the soldiers are undergoing reorientation training and familiarisation as part of the Army’s efforts to ‘rebalance’ its deployment on the northern, western and northeastern borders.
According to sources in the defence and security establishment, various new elements from the Strike Corps have reached Ladakh, including certain artillery units with specialised firepower, armoured and mechanised columns as well as the infantry.


“This is part of the re-orientation training. This is not a permanent deployment as they will come back to their stations after some time. They will be replaced by the rest of the elements from the particular Corps. The Strike Corps will come into play when there is a need,” a source told ThePrint.

I think China has already rotated troops from different command theaters, some even from the Eastern provinces like Zhenjiang and Fujian, to Tibet and Xinjiang a dozen times since June 2020? What took the Indians so long? Spike in fuel cost?
 

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I think China has already rotated troops from different command theaters, some even from the Eastern provinces like Zhenjiang and Fujian, to Tibet and Xinjiang a dozen times since June 2020? What took the Indians so long? Spike in fuel cost?
The rebalance here might refer to India making China a higher priority than Pakistan. The rotation of troops is seen as a milestone, belated as it may be, in this regard ?
 

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The rebalance here might refer to India making China a higher priority than Pakistan. The rotation of troops is seen as a milestone, belated as it may be, in this regard ?
They didn’t do this the other way around when things were tense in 2019?
 

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The Anglo Tibet Independence program is dead. You hardly even hear about it even on BBC, CNN.

Their last big hurrah was before the Bejing Olympics when out of nowhere all these well funded western based Tibet groups suddenly sprung up. They were mostly Falung Gong cultists, but had some D list celebrities.


Since then the Tibetans have been replaced by the Uyghurs. Now they're using the same Falung Gong cultists and minor celebrities but they've roped in some random Kazakhstanis. They speak against China and in return get out of Kazakhstan with green cards . If they're lucky get jobs at neocon think tanks. Even though Kazakhstan is mainly irreligious they have to grow beards and wear Hijabs for added "authenticity".
 

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In the end, orthopraxy is crucial to the understanding of Hinduism not because Hinduism entails no particular beliefs or because it makes no claims for orthodoxy; different traditions do espouse particular beliefs, and many will not hesitate to claim orthodoxy for those beliefs. Rather, orthopraxy is important for Hinduism because the commonality of practices among Hindus far exceeds the commonality of beliefs. Indeed, it is not merely religious scholars but also Hindus themselves who define Hindu identity in terms of practices more than beliefs. This emphasis on practice rather than belief runs counter to the typical Western model of religions, but it is an emphasis that proves characteristic not only of Hinduism but also of Asian religious and social traditions generally.

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Islam generally stresses orthopraxy over orthodoxy. This can be seen in the fact that the account to be rendered on the day of judgement (yaum al-Din) is one of works.
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However, since the practice is held to come from doctrine, this is essentially orthodoxy applied to practice.[
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My books on Islam, beyond getting me to dislike the religion (they're written by an observant Muslim), also describe Islam as an Orthopraxic religion.

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The point regarding China vs India is that China is an intensely secular society; the society does not require religion as a way to worship itself (Durkheim's definition), it just goes straight to worshipping itself. There are, of course, religious outcroppings, but ethics are determined by tradition and custom, not because of what is said in a holy book as in some other cultures.

I don't think China is that much of a problem for Pakistanis; I'm told Muslims like atheists better than idolaters, with the joke being that the only difference in faith is that Muslims append "but Allah" to "there is no God", so atheists are closer to Muslims than worshippers of non-Abrahamic religions.

The fact that India is religious, while China is secular, means that culturally speaking, despite sharing Buddhism and a racial group with the Chinese, the Tibetans are more likely to lean toward Indian culture than Chinese culture.
You write all that to delude yourself into thinking Tibetans want to be Indians? LOL

Tibetans aren't Indian, they don't look Indiani. They get called "Chink" while they are in India. Not just the Tibetan refugees, South Tibetans as well. Despite being second class refugees I'm sure the literacy levels of Tibetan refugees are much higher than the average Indian.

When China reclaims South Tibet and Ladakh maybe an amnesty will be organised to allow non violent Tibetans to settle in either of these regions.
 

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A big difference between India and China, though, is the level of religiosity.

Studying India, it's shocking to discover that Hinduism isn't all that different from Islam in being orthopraxic (acting Hindu makes you Hindu), and that religion to Indians is a key part of social life.


Traditional Tibet, mind you, was a theocracy. So having a strong religious proclivity means that Tibet is likely to tilt toward India on a cultural basis. This is something that can be remedied by education, but if the traditional culture is religious, it will be hard to get Tibetans to shift their mindset fully.
I would want my money back from the school you went to if i were you if that's the conclusion you came to after "studying india".
That school of yours doesn't seem to have a bright future. :rolleyes::rolleyes:
 

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In the end, orthopraxy is crucial to the understanding of Hinduism not because Hinduism entails no particular beliefs or because it makes no claims for orthodoxy; different traditions do espouse particular beliefs, and many will not hesitate to claim orthodoxy for those beliefs. Rather, orthopraxy is important for Hinduism because the commonality of practices among Hindus far exceeds the commonality of beliefs. Indeed, it is not merely religious scholars but also Hindus themselves who define Hindu identity in terms of practices more than beliefs. This emphasis on practice rather than belief runs counter to the typical Western model of religions, but it is an emphasis that proves characteristic not only of Hinduism but also of Asian religious and social traditions generally.

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Islam generally stresses orthopraxy over orthodoxy. This can be seen in the fact that the account to be rendered on the day of judgement (yaum al-Din) is one of works.
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However, since the practice is held to come from doctrine, this is essentially orthodoxy applied to practice.[
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My books on Islam, beyond getting me to dislike the religion (they're written by an observant Muslim), also describe Islam as an Orthopraxic religion.

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The point regarding China vs India is that China is an intensely secular society; the society does not require religion as a way to worship itself (Durkheim's definition), it just goes straight to worshipping itself. There are, of course, religious outcroppings, but ethics are determined by tradition and custom, not because of what is said in a holy book as in some other cultures.

I don't think China is that much of a problem for Pakistanis; I'm told Muslims like atheists better than idolaters, with the joke being that the only difference in faith is that Muslims append "but Allah" to "there is no God", so atheists are closer to Muslims than worshippers of non-Abrahamic religions.

The fact that India is religious, while China is secular, means that culturally speaking, despite sharing Buddhism and a racial group with the Chinese, the Tibetans are more likely to lean toward Indian culture than Chinese culture.

Dude, I've known you for long enough to know that you don't actually want to discuss anything. You bait people with the pretense of discussion, only to begin lecturing on topics you have only a superficial understanding of. Like the time you wrote an entire essay about how fighter aircraft 'dodge' Fox 3s by pulling high Gs, like in the movies. Remember that one, Maverick?

Do you actually think I'm going to engage in a theological debate with you, while you comically try to lecture me on MY religion, because you read a book on Islam once? That would be like me reading a book on Narcissistic Personality Disorder, and then lecturing you on your life (and I'd still do a better job of it than you, e.g. try not to copy/paste from blogs and wikipedia, especially with their "citation needed" warnings.)

So move along professor, before you hurt yourself.
 
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The boss thanks the service men stationed in Tibet

Chinese President Xi Jinping Meets Representatives of Troops Stationed in Tibet​

Chinese President Xi Jinping met with representatives of officers and soldiers of the armed forces stationed in southwest China's Tibet Autonomous Region on Friday.
Any reason why his visit was kept under wraps for the first 2 days and only revealed to the masses on the 3rd fag end ?
I am sure if it was revealed beforehand, many Tibetans would have loved the opportunity to come and pay homage to him.
Also with a poster claiming Tibetans prefer China to India or independence, a very easy method is known as referendum. Since India has no claims on Tibet proper , it would just be a vote between China and complete autonomy
 

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Any reason why his visit was kept under wraps for the first 2 days and only revealed to the masses on the 3rd fag end ?
I am sure if it was revealed beforehand, many Tibetans would have loved the opportunity to come and pay homage to him.
That's why the visit was under wraps knowing very well how many CIA and Indian proxies in the region want him dead. Too bad for you lot China is smart.
Also with a poster claiming Tibetans prefer China to India or independence, a very easy method is known as referendum. Since India has no claims on Tibet proper , it would just be a vote between China and complete autonomy
Indians talking abou referendum how ironic. India doesn't have the balls to conduct a UN mandated referendum in Kashmir knowing very well what the result will be. Indians are probably the last ppl on earth that should be recommending a referendum to anyone.
 
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