China's Aircraft manufacturing Industry.

yehe

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Here is some news about Chinese aircraft manufacturing tools, in Chinese, I know, but I cant find myself able to translate this:eek: , can anyone translate 模锻液压机 pls:D

中国将建世界最大重型模锻液压机 8万吨,世界第一


《西安日报》 张平阳 焦艳丽

  “作为世界制造业大国,在我国建设8万吨模锻液压机项目,无论是从国际政治、国防建设需要,还是从实现由装备制造业大国向强国转变看,都迫在眉睫。”4月3日下午,8万吨大型模锻液压机重大装备项目在北京通过专家论证,西安阎良国家航空高技术产业基地管委会主任金乾生在新闻发布会上如此表示。

  重型模锻液压机是关系国家安全、经济发展的战略性设备,也是航空制造业的基础性设备。当今世界上航空制造业强国都拥有4.5万吨以上的重型模锻液压机。美国拥有两台4.5万吨模锻液压机,俄罗斯拥有两台7.5万吨模锻液压机,法国拥有一台6.5万吨模锻液压机。我国目前只有1台1万吨的模锻液压机,显然不能适应经济建设、国防发展的要求。

  2002年,中国工程院成立了以两院院士师昌绪先生为组长的咨询研究组,对我国建造8万吨模锻液压机进行调研。专家们经过一年多的调查研究,认为我国现阶段启动建设8万吨模锻液压机大型装备项目,对航空、舰船、航天、兵器、核工业等行业不仅十分必要,而且完全可行。经过多方努力,西安阎良国家航空高技术产业基地争取到了这一重大装备项目。2006年,由民营企业、政府共同投资,国有企业参与的项目承担主体———西安三角航空科技有限责任公司成立,开始了该项目的市场调研和项目建设方案论证等前期工作。

  据金乾生介绍,目前世界上吨位最大的8万吨大型模锻液压机重大装备项目占地150亩,总投资10亿元。其中,一期工程投资1.95亿元,完成4万吨模锻液压机的研制生产,这也是8万吨模锻液压机的样机,预计2008年底正式投产;二期工程投资8.05亿元,完成8万吨模锻液压机本体和配套设备的建设。

  启动8万吨大型模锻液压机重大装备项目,有利于提升我国重型机械装备行业的综合实力,保障我国大型模锻件产品的生产需要。金乾生告诉记者,我国现今拥有的大型锻压设备,仅相当于上世纪40年代德国和50年代初期美国、俄罗斯、法国所拥有的锻压设备能力,无法满足对大型模锻件产品的生产需要。中国工程院咨询研究组的研究报告表明,模锻液压机生产的大型模锻件产品,70%来自航空市场,同时能兼顾舰船、航天、兵器和核工业等行业需求。

  陕西航空资源密集,航空产业链条较为完备,是全国唯一具有两个整机生产企业的省份,中国一航红原航空锻铸工业公司已是我国航空锻件的专业性企业。作为我国大型飞机项目的重要研制基地,在国家航空产业基地建设大型模锻液压机项目,有利于形成大、小模锻件产品加工链,直接面向航空市场用户,减少风险、降低成本,提高产品附加值,推动地方经济发展;同时,还能改变我省、我市无法承担波音、空客等国外知名航空制造业公司大锻件生产的局面,有利于进一步加强国际合作,提升我省、我市对外开放的水平和层次。

  金乾生表示,西安阎良国家航空高技术产业基地将在省、市政府的积极支持和引导下,以企业为主体,保证项目一期工程(4万吨模锻液压机)在2008年底正式投产。在此基础上,总结经验,再用2到3年时间完成8万吨模锻液压机及其配套设施的建设,在“十二五”中期,全面完成该项目建设,把国家航空产业基地打造成“世界级模锻制造中心”,为我国自主研发大飞机打好基础。


四川德阳:

中国第二重型机械集团公司大型模锻压机建设项目环境影响评价公告

公告内容:中国第二重型机械集团公司大型模锻压机建设项目环境影响报告书
一、建设项目简述:
1、项目名称:大型模锻压机建设项目
2、项目性质及主要建设内容
技改项目,新建大型模锻压机车间主厂房以及炉子间10130m2,新增800MN油压三梁四柱模锻压机设备;新建模锻压机生产配套公辅用房——高压泵站及变配电所1500m2、清理工部厂房2950m2;新增操作机、天然气加热炉、高压水切割机、起重机等设备27台套。
4、项目区域概况
中国第二重型机械集团公司位于四川省德阳市珠江路460号。工厂占地面积290余万平方米,厂区地势平坦,地面海拔高度在500米左右。工厂的交通运输条件较好,有专用铁路50公里。距成都市68公里,一般大件可通过宝成铁路、大件公路、成绵高速公路运往全国各地。
5、.工程投资
项目新增固定资产投资150300万元。其中,申请国家拨款40000万元,申请银行贷款80000万元,企业自筹30300万元。

现在看来,设备是安装在德阳而非阎良

3、建设规模:
800MN模锻压机生产线建成后新增模锻件15000件,产值为20亿元人民币,生产纲领见表。

大型模锻件生产纲领表

序号 产品类别 年 产 量 单件重 产 值
(件) (吨) (公斤) (万元) 典型产品

1 军品模锻件 1500 500 200~300 60000 飞机框梁、轮盘
2 四代机 120 63 200~900 25000 飞机框梁、翼梁
3 民品模锻件 10000 12000 1000~3000 70000 石油套管、阀体
4 大飞机(含大运) 400 920 1130~3000 30000 框梁、主起外筒
5 转包外贸件 3000 300 20000 轮盘、阀体等
合 计 15020 13783 205000
 

Cheetah

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China will construct the world maximum heavy drop forging hydraulic press 80,000 tons, the world first "The Xi'an Daily" Pingyang burnt is gorgeous "Took the world manufacturing industry great nation, constructs 80,000 tons drop forging hydraulic presses project in our country, regardless of is from international political, the national defense development need, or looked from the realization by the equipment manufacturing industry great nation to the powerful nation transformation, is all imminent." On April 3 the afternoon, 80,000 tons large-scale drop forging hydraulic presses significant equipment project proves in Beijing through the expert, Xi'an Yan good country aviation high-tech industry base management meeting Director Jin Qian lives at the press conference so expressed. The heavy drop forging hydraulic press is relates the national security, the economical development strategic equipment, also is the aviation manufacturing industry foundational equipment. Now in the world the aviation manufacturing industry powerful nation all has 45,000 ton above the heavy drop forging hydraulic press. US has two 45,000 ton drop forging hydraulic presses, Russia has two 75,000 ton drop forging hydraulic presses, France has 65,000 ton drop forging hydraulic presses. Our country at present only has 1 10,000 ton drop forging hydraulic presses, obviously cannot adapt the economic development, the national defense development request. In 2002, the Chinese project courtyard has established take two courtyards academicians Mr. Shi Changxu as group leader's consultation research group, makes 80,000 tons drop forging hydraulic presses to our country to carry on the investigation and study. The experts pass through more than year of investigation and studies, thought our country present stage start constructs 80,000 tons drop forging hydraulic presses large-scale equipment project, to profession and so on aviation, ships, astronautics, weapon, nuclear industry not only extremely essential, moreover is completely feasible. After diligently, the Xi'an Yan good country aviation high-tech industry base strove for this single layer big equipment project in every way. In 2006, by the privately operated enterprise, the government invests together, the state-owned enterprise participation the project undertook the main body □□□Xi'an triangle aviation science and technology limited liability company to be established, started this project market investigation and study and earlier period work and so on project construction plan proof. According to Jin Qian lives the introduction, at present in world tonnage biggest 80,000 ton large-scale drop forging hydraulic press significant equipment project 占地 150 Chinese acres, total investment 1 billion Yuan. Among them, issue of project investment 195 million Yuan, complete 40,000 tons drop forging hydraulic presses the development production, this also is 80,000 tons drop forging hydraulic presses prototype, estimated 2008 year's end officially go into production; The second phased projects invest 805 million Yuan, completes 80,000 tons drop forging hydraulic presses main body and the supplementary equipment construction. Starts 80,000 tons large-scale drop forging hydraulic presses significant equipment project, is advantageous to promotes our country heavy duty machinery equipment profession the comprehensive strength, safeguards our country large-scale die forged item product the production need. Jin Qian lives tells reporter, the large-scale forging and stamping equipment which our country nowadays has, only is equal the forging and stamping equipment ability which to on century 40's Germany and the 50's initial period US, Russia, France has, is unable to satisfy to the large-scale die forged item product production need. The Chinese project courtyard consultation research group's memoir indicated, the drop forging hydraulic press produces the large-scale die forged item product, 70% comes from the aviation market, simultaneously can give dual attention to profession demand and so on the ships, astronautics, weapon and nuclear industry. Shaanxi aviation resources crowded, the aviation industry chain link is complete, was the nation has two machine production enterprises the province, a Chinese navigation Hongyuan navigation 空锻 molder industry company already is only the our country aviation forging specialized enterprise. As our country aerodreadnought project important development base, in the national aviation industry base construction large-scale drop forging hydraulic press project, is advantageous to in a big way forms, the small die forged item product processing chain, directly faces the aviation market user, reduces the risk, reduces the cost, enhances the product attachment value, impels the place economy development; At the same time, but also can change our province, my city is unable to undertake Boeing, the spatial guest and so on the overseas well-known aviation manufacturing industry company 大锻件 production aspect, is advantageous to further strengthens the international cooperation, promotes our province, my city to foreign countries opening up level and the level. Jin Qian will live the expression, the Xi'an Yan good country aviation high-tech industry base in the province, the municipal government positively supports with the guidance under, take the enterprise as the main body, guaranteed a project issue of project (40,000 tons drop forging hydraulic presses) officially will go into production in 2008 year's end. In this foundation, sums up experience, again uses 2 to complete 80,000 tons drop forging hydraulic presses and its the necessary facility construction to 3 years time, in "十25" the intermediate stage, comprehensively completes this project construction, makes the national aviation industry base "the world-class drop forging manufacturing center", independently researches and develops the big airplane for our country to build the foundation. Sichuan Deyang: Chinese double mechanical group company large-scale drop forging press items of basic construction environmental effect appraisal announcement Announces the content: Chinese double mechanical group company large-scale drop forging press items of basic construction environmental effect report one, items of basic construction summary: 1st, project name: The large-scale drop forging press items of basic construction 2, the project nature and the main construction content technological transformation project, between the newly built large-scale drop forging press workshop host workshop as well as the stove 10130m2, increases 800MN the flowing tubing head pressure three Liang four columns drop forging press equipment; The newly built drop forging press production necessary male auxiliary the high pressure pumping station and changes substation 1500m2, cleaning up ministry of public works workshop 2950m2 with Fang??; Increases, natural gas heating furnace, high-pressured water cutter, hoist crane equipment 27 wraps and so on the operation machine. 4th, the project region survey China double mechanical group company is located Sichuan Deyang city Pearl River road 460. The factory area 290 ten thousand square meters, the factory district topography is smooth, ground altitude above sea level about 500 meters. The factory transportation condition is better, has the special-purpose railroad 50 kilometers. Is apart from the Chengdu 68 kilometers, the common big-ticket item passable Bao-Cheng Railroad, the big-ticket item road, have become the wadding highway to transport to each place. 5th, The project investment project increases the fixed asset investment 1.503 billion Yuan. Among them, the application country allocates funds 400 million Yuan, applies for the bank loan 800 million Yuan, the enterprise self-provides 303 million Yuan. Now looked like that, the equipment is installs in Deyang but non- Yan is good 3rd, construction scale: After the 800MN drop forging press production line completes increases die forged item 15,000, the output value is 2 billion Yuan, the production guiding principle sees the table. Large-scale die forged item production guiding principle table Serial number product category annual output single unit heavy output value () (ton) (kilogram) (ten thousand Yuan) typical product 1 military goods die forged item 1.5005002 billion ~ 30.06 million airplanes frames Liang, wheel disk 24 generation of machine 12.0632 million ~ 90.025 million airplanes frame Liang, the wing beam 3 goods for civilian use die forged item 10000120001000 ~ 300.07 million petroleum drive pipes, the valve body 4 big airplanes (contain greatly transport) 4.00920113 billion ~ 300.03 million frames Liang, advocate the outer sleeve 5 subcontracts foreign trades 300.03002 billion wheel disk, the valve bodies and so on equal 1502013783205000
 

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Didn't find any thread of the kind so thought of opening up one.
Here is some news about Chinese aircraft manufacturing tools, in Chinese, I know, but I cant find myself able to translate this:eek: , can anyone translate 模锻液压机 pls:D

hey yehe, please translate next time or at least do a synopsis, since many members in this forum cannot read Chinese. If you can't do that, then please don't bother posting the article.
 

flyzies

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China will construct the world maximum heavy drop forging hydraulic press 80,000 tons, the world first "The Xi'an Daily" Pingyang burnt is gorgeous "Took the world manufacturing industry great nation, constructs 80,000 tons drop forging hydraulic presses project in our country, regardless of is from international political, the national defense development need, or looked from the realization by the equipment manufacturing industry great nation to the powerful nation transformation, is all imminent." On April 3 the afternoon, 80,000 tons large-scale drop forging hydraulic presses significant equipment project proves in Beijing through the expert, Xi'an Yan good country aviation high-tech industry base management meeting Director Jin Qian lives at the press conference so expressed. The heavy drop forging hydraulic press is relates the national security, the economical development strategic equipment, also is the aviation manufacturing industry foundational equipment. Now in the world the aviation manufacturing industry powerful nation all has 45,000 ton above the heavy drop forging hydraulic press. US has two 45,000 ton drop forging hydraulic presses, Russia has two 75,000 ton drop forging hydraulic presses, France has 65,000 ton drop forging hydraulic presses. Our country at present only has 1 10,000 ton drop forging hydraulic presses, obviously cannot adapt the economic development, the national defense development request. In 2002, the Chinese project courtyard has established take two courtyards academicians Mr. Shi Changxu as group leader's consultation research group, makes 80,000 tons drop forging hydraulic presses to our country to carry on the investigation and study. The experts pass through more than year of investigation and studies, thought our country present stage start constructs 80,000 tons drop forging hydraulic presses large-scale equipment project, to profession and so on aviation, ships, astronautics, weapon, nuclear industry not only extremely essential, moreover is completely feasible. After diligently, the Xi'an Yan good country aviation high-tech industry base strove for this single layer big equipment project in every way. In 2006, by the privately operated enterprise, the government invests together, the state-owned enterprise participation the project undertook the main body □□□Xi'an triangle aviation science and technology limited liability company to be established, started this project market investigation and study and earlier period work and so on project construction plan proof. According to Jin Qian lives the introduction, at present in world tonnage biggest 80,000 ton large-scale drop forging hydraulic press significant equipment project 占地 150 Chinese acres, total investment 1 billion Yuan. Among them, issue of project investment 195 million Yuan, complete 40,000 tons drop forging hydraulic presses the development production, this also is 80,000 tons drop forging hydraulic presses prototype, estimated 2008 year's end officially go into production; The second phased projects invest 805 million Yuan, completes 80,000 tons drop forging hydraulic presses main body and the supplementary equipment construction. Starts 80,000 tons large-scale drop forging hydraulic presses significant equipment project, is advantageous to promotes our country heavy duty machinery equipment profession the comprehensive strength, safeguards our country large-scale die forged item product the production need. Jin Qian lives tells reporter, the large-scale forging and stamping equipment which our country nowadays has, only is equal the forging and stamping equipment ability which to on century 40's Germany and the 50's initial period US, Russia, France has, is unable to satisfy to the large-scale die forged item product production need. The Chinese project courtyard consultation research group's memoir indicated, the drop forging hydraulic press produces the large-scale die forged item product, 70% comes from the aviation market, simultaneously can give dual attention to profession demand and so on the ships, astronautics, weapon and nuclear industry. Shaanxi aviation resources crowded, the aviation industry chain link is complete, was the nation has two machine production enterprises the province, a Chinese navigation Hongyuan navigation 空锻 molder industry company already is only the our country aviation forging specialized enterprise. As our country aerodreadnought project important development base, in the national aviation industry base construction large-scale drop forging hydraulic press project, is advantageous to in a big way forms, the small die forged item product processing chain, directly faces the aviation market user, reduces the risk, reduces the cost, enhances the product attachment value, impels the place economy development; At the same time, but also can change our province, my city is unable to undertake Boeing, the spatial guest and so on the overseas well-known aviation manufacturing industry company 大锻件 production aspect, is advantageous to further strengthens the international cooperation, promotes our province, my city to foreign countries opening up level and the level. Jin Qian will live the expression, the Xi'an Yan good country aviation high-tech industry base in the province, the municipal government positively supports with the guidance under, take the enterprise as the main body, guaranteed a project issue of project (40,000 tons drop forging hydraulic presses) officially will go into production in 2008 year's end. In this foundation, sums up experience, again uses 2 to complete 80,000 tons drop forging hydraulic presses and its the necessary facility construction to 3 years time, in "十25" the intermediate stage, comprehensively completes this project construction, makes the national aviation industry base "the world-class drop forging manufacturing center", independently researches and develops the big airplane for our country to build the foundation. Sichuan Deyang: Chinese double mechanical group company large-scale drop forging press items of basic construction environmental effect appraisal announcement Announces the content: Chinese double mechanical group company large-scale drop forging press items of basic construction environmental effect report one, items of basic construction summary: 1st, project name: The large-scale drop forging press items of basic construction 2, the project nature and the main construction content technological transformation project, between the newly built large-scale drop forging press workshop host workshop as well as the stove 10130m2, increases 800MN the flowing tubing head pressure three Liang four columns drop forging press equipment; The newly built drop forging press production necessary male auxiliary the high pressure pumping station and changes substation 1500m2, cleaning up ministry of public works workshop 2950m2 with Fang??; Increases, natural gas heating furnace, high-pressured water cutter, hoist crane equipment 27 wraps and so on the operation machine. 4th, the project region survey China double mechanical group company is located Sichuan Deyang city Pearl River road 460. The factory area 290 ten thousand square meters, the factory district topography is smooth, ground altitude above sea level about 500 meters. The factory transportation condition is better, has the special-purpose railroad 50 kilometers. Is apart from the Chengdu 68 kilometers, the common big-ticket item passable Bao-Cheng Railroad, the big-ticket item road, have become the wadding highway to transport to each place. 5th, The project investment project increases the fixed asset investment 1.503 billion Yuan. Among them, the application country allocates funds 400 million Yuan, applies for the bank loan 800 million Yuan, the enterprise self-provides 303 million Yuan. Now looked like that, the equipment is installs in Deyang but non- Yan is good 3rd, construction scale: After the 800MN drop forging press production line completes increases die forged item 15,000, the output value is 2 billion Yuan, the production guiding principle sees the table. Large-scale die forged item production guiding principle table Serial number product category annual output single unit heavy output value () (ton) (kilogram) (ten thousand Yuan) typical product 1 military goods die forged item 1.5005002 billion ~ 30.06 million airplanes frames Liang, wheel disk 24 generation of machine 12.0632 million ~ 90.025 million airplanes frame Liang, the wing beam 3 goods for civilian use die forged item 10000120001000 ~ 300.07 million petroleum drive pipes, the valve body 4 big airplanes (contain greatly transport) 4.00920113 billion ~ 300.03 million frames Liang, advocate the outer sleeve 5 subcontracts foreign trades 300.03002 billion wheel disk, the valve bodies and so on equal 1502013783205000

Ever heard of paragraphs??
Thats an eyesore to read...
 

King_Comm

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Apparently, google translation doesn't do paragraphs.

From the original article, China is going to build a 80000 tonne hydraulic press forge, largest in the world, will cost 1 billion RMB and will be completed in 2008, making forged parts for aircrafts, oil pipeline etc.

My father reckons that they are building it now because the Chinese need it to play a part in the construction of aircraft carriers.
 

AmiGanguli

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I know what a hydraulic press forge does, but does anybody know what capabilities a 80kton forge gives you vs. (for example) a 40kton forge? Is it just the ability to produce larger parts?

... Ami.
 

yehe

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hey yehe, please translate next time or at least do a synopsis, since many members in this forum cannot read Chinese. If you can't do that, then please don't bother posting the article.

Yeah, sry, I know, I am too lazy:p
Anyway, just thought we can start off a new related topic.
I am just curious about infrastructures needed for modern aircraft manufacuring, like windtunnels, robots, metallugy ETC. as info about this is abit scattered, saw that post in a BBS and thought I would just quick grab it and start one:eek:

and a big thx to Cheetah for the google translating, didnt thought of that, hehe, although mashine translate is so hard to read sometime.
 

King_Comm

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I know what a hydraulic press forge does, but does anybody know what capabilities a 80kton forge gives you vs. (for example) a 40kton forge? Is it just the ability to produce larger parts?

... Ami.
==yep, it can produce larger parts, and press stronger materials.
 

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继与奥凯航空在北京签订了10架新舟60飞机的订单之后,中国航空工业第一集团公司(下简称中国一航)旗下另一种支线飞机,即第一架我国完全拥有自主知识产权的国产新支线飞机———ARJ21也首次获得了来自老挝航空公司的2架意向订单,在此之前,ARJ21飞机已在国内获得来自包括上海航空公司在内的71架订单。

售价约3050万美元/架

在上周五举行的亚洲国际航空展的介绍会上,中航商用飞机有限公司市场与销售部副总经理陆峥向早报记者透露,ARJ21新型涡扇支线飞机本月初获得来自老挝航空公司的2架意向订单,至于价格,他表示暂时还需要洽谈,"在7月底或8月初,我们还会和对方进行谈判,最后签下正式合同。"但据中国一航的知情人士透露,ARJ21新型涡扇支线飞机的价格一般是在3050万美元左右。

陆峥向早报记者介绍,ARJ21新型涡扇支线飞机自今年6月28日在上海飞机制造厂实现全机对接后,正按照研制生产的节点计划进行总装,今年底将整机成型,明年3月实现首飞,2009年9月交付第一个用户山东航空公司。ARJ21飞机在国内获得的71架订单,包括固定和意向两种,其中上海航空公司订购了5架、厦门航空公司订购了6架、山东航空公司订购10架、深圳租赁金融公司订购了20架、上海电气金融租赁公司订购了30架。

经营公司拟海外上市

据悉,ARJ21飞机项目的盈亏平衡点是销售250架左右。所以目前只有73架订单的中航商用飞机有限公司也在四处推介。陆峥告诉早报记者,他们参加了此前的巴黎航展,虽暂时没有获得订单,但是为ARJ21飞机项目打开国际市场铺平了道路,而即将于9月3日-5日首次移师中国香港举行的全球三大航展之一的亚洲国际航空展,ARJ21飞机也将会参展,"这次亚洲国际航空展,汉莎航空、法国航空、国泰航空、香港航空、海湾航空等我国、欧洲、亚洲的航空公司都决定到会,这么重要的场合、这么近的路程,我们当然不会缺席。"

中航商用飞机有限公司是中国一航旗下专门负责中国民用支线飞机ARJ21研制和经营的公司。此前,中国一航总经理林左鸣在接受记者采访时曾表示,中航商用飞机有限公司已经聘请了花旗银行作为投资顾问,正在进行海外私募,有望成为中国民用飞机制造业中首家赴海外上市的公司。同时,有中国一航内部人士透露,负责ARJ21总装工作的上海飞机制造厂资产可能将会注入到中航商用飞机有限公司。
it mentions that after signing a contract for 10 MA-60 with Okay airway, AVIC1 got MOU for 2 ARJ-21 from Laos airway, which will make this the first export order for ARJ-21. So far, ARJ-21 has 73 orders, it needs 250 to break even.
 
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