Syria to get Mig-31E from Russia

crazyinsane105

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the attack range is irrelevant, Syria has an extremely small border. It has no need for a plane like this, upgraded Mig-29 makes far more sense.

As the article points out, maybe some of these Mig-31's are intended for Iran, which has a very large area to patrol. Plus the long range missiles that can be carried by the Mig-31E would give a slight edge to Syrian pilots.
 

The_Zergling

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the attack range is irrelevant, Syria has an extremely small border. It has no need for a plane like this, upgraded Mig-29 makes far more sense.

Given that the Syrians already have the infrastructure and equipment for the MiG-29, there is probably some sort of strategic reason that's not immediately obvious to this possible purchase. Unfortunately I can't really think of one - The MiG-31 is for all intents and purposes an interceptor... and if I remember correctly, ideally used to shoot down high speed bombers. I can't easily foresee a scenario where that would be essential to the Syrian Air Force.
 

IDonT

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Given that the Syrians already have the infrastructure and equipment for the MiG-29, there is probably some sort of strategic reason that's not immediately obvious to this possible purchase. Unfortunately I can't really think of one - The MiG-31 is for all intents and purposes an interceptor... and if I remember correctly, ideally used to shoot down high speed bombers. I can't easily foresee a scenario where that would be essential to the Syrian Air Force.

I think the aircraft has greater political value than military one. A high speed dash in and out of Israeli airspace, while having no military affect whatsoever, provides great political victory. I think the Syrians used to do that with their Mig 25 before the Isreali figured out how to shoot one down. Its the same way the Indians used their Mig 25 to do sonic booms over Islamabad, useless military but great politically.

Israel does this all the time by the way. Even doing sonic booms over the Syrian president's home.
 
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isthvan

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19:26 19/06/2007

Russia said denying reports it planned to sell fighter planes to Iran, Syria

By Reuters

Russia's state arms exporter denied a newspaper report Tuesday that it planned to supply jet fighters to Syria and Iran.

Russian daily Kommersant quoted unnamed sources in the military-industrial complex as saying Moscow had begun shipments of five MiG-31E interceptor fighters to Syria and that Iran would benefit from the sales.

"Russia has no plans to deliver fighters to Syria and Iran," Rosorobonexport chief Sergei Chemezov told reporters at the Paris air show, Russian news agencies said.




Interfax news agency said a source in the Russian delegation at Le Bourget had said earlier an unspecified "Middle East nation" had become the first buyer of MiG-31E interceptors, paying a total of $400 million under the contract.

The United States imposed sanctions last year on Russian arms companies, including Rosobonexport, for sales to Syria and Iran. Russia says the sanctions breach international law.

Russian officials said this year Russia had completed a contract to deliver TOR-M1 anti-aircraft missile systems to Iran, drawing criticism from the United States.

Under President Vladimir Putin, Russian arms firms have pushed arms sales abroad as the Kremlin seeks to reassert its influence in the Middle East, Asia and Africa.

Russians denied MiG-31 sale to Syria...
 

Finn McCool

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They also denied back during the 80's that they were going to lease India two nuclear submarines, but fact is that they did. We'll have to wait and see what happens.

I think Crazy is right. I doubt that the Russians of all people would not sell arms when given the chance. Of course the Syrians have not bought yet they only have 5 for evaluation purposes and, as already pointed out, the Mig-31 is not exactly ideal for the Syrian's purposes. I bet they will go with the Mig-29s.
 

mpaduan79

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As the article points out, maybe some of these Mig-31's are intended for Iran, which has a very large area to patrol. Plus the long range missiles that can be carried by the Mig-31E would give a slight edge to Syrian pilots.
it might be true coz iran operates a similar class of fighter f-14a tomcat i think only a few can fly , also mig-31 with aesa radar also it can serve as a small awacs combat aircraft for point of defense, also with long range aam it can serve a a deterent to us air-craft try to operate.but like in all my post depends on how iran really know how to use its advantage in battlefield condition.:coffee:
 

M16A2 vs AK-47

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it might be true coz iran operates a similar class of fighter f-14a tomcat i think only a few can fly , also mig-31 with aesa radar also it can serve as a small awacs combat aircraft for point of defense, also with long range aam it can serve a a deterent to us air-craft try to operate.but like in all my post depends on how iran really know how to use its advantage in battlefield condition.:coffee:

I highly doubt that just 20 F-14 of the IRIAF or 5 Mig-31 from syria will do any good of they went up against the Isralie Air Force or the U.S. Air Force. :coffee:
 

crazyinsane105

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I highly doubt that just 20 F-14 of the IRIAF or 5 Mig-31 from syria will do any good of they went up against the Isralie Air Force or the U.S. Air Force. :coffee:

The Russians have up to 300 Mig-31's that they can give to Iran. The first five are just for testing and evaluation. And besides, Iran probably just wants enough aircraft so they can give some level of protection to their nuclear/missile sites.
 

Pointblank

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The Russians have up to 300 Mig-31's that they can give to Iran. The first five are just for testing and evaluation. And besides, Iran probably just wants enough aircraft so they can give some level of protection to their nuclear/missile sites.

5 won't be enough. Factor in aircraft availability, and to provide adequate air protection would require at least 20. Include expected losses due to attrition and accidents would make that at least 25.
 
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