Hong-Kong Protests

Gatekeeper said:

Our Mr T has been here a long time. Obviously doesn't contribute much otherwise he would be more "senior in the forum's ranking".

He's supposed to be from the UK, but comment much on Taiwan, Japan and Hong Kong. But I do not believe he understand Chinese cultural, history, language or politics.

I'm a college lecturer in the UK, and often I've to access my students. And if he was my student I'll summarise as such:

This student unfortunately is not really well informed. Most of the stuff is from his head with prejudice views. Does not pass the critical test. Needs more research to aid understanding. Refuses to take advise and counter point. Ignore facts if it doesn't fit with his own hypothesis. Will only responds to others if it thinks it has got a case, will withdrawal and refuses to answer when confronted with facts that contradict his views.

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The anti-China hate is so strong these days. I've been watching panda videos and the HK/TW/FLG terrorists call for panda videos to be removed from youtube because it's CCP propaganda and pandas are CCP agents.

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I think there is a bit of an overreaction to this "BNO to citizenship" offer.
That 3 million number being bandied about is just to draw eyes, and make a news story.

Realistically, how many of those people care about British citizenship? If they were interested, they would have already taken the BNO in the first place.

The people originally afraid during the handover period all rushed to get the US/UK/CAN/AUS citizenship already. How many of these people were actually political? I don't think many, Canadian stats show that many left to go back to HK for economic reasons.

(As an aside, now many are coming back to Canada once again to raise their families. Better education prospects, pollution levels/health, and affordability being key factors rather than politics.)

Furthermore, there is an underlying assumption that can be completely flawed, BNO holders correlate with protesters/rioters/independence seekers. I haven't seen any statistics on this.

That being said, many of the radical rioters seem to be unemployed people (again, no official statistics, just what is published in the news). I would bet that almost none of the protesters have high technical skills. Does UK have a barista shortage? I've noticed a bizarre phenomenon in Toronto where I've only ever seen almost every Fish and Chip shop is run by a Chinese person. Perhaps it is similar in the UK? If they are retiring soon, then these new citizens can proudly take over!

At last, that's the first nail in the coffin of these "pro-democrarcy" Hong Kongers.

Hong Kong’s legislature passes national anthem law amid opposition lawmaker protest

The bill outlawing insults to March of the Volunteers was approved in the Legislative Council by a vote of 41 to one.

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Interesting. I would love to delve into where the money cone from. The article just say donations from public.

Don't believe that for one minute. It's large amount in such shirt space of time! All the sudden, since account frozen no more donation comes in after trade deal? Hmmmm.

Hong Kong’s Protest Movement Is Running Out of Cash

By Kiuyan Wong

June 4, 2020, 5:00 PM EDT

Donations fall for main group providing legal assistance

Many young protesters need help making bail if arrested

At the height of last year’s protests in Hong Kong, Daniel Wong Kwok-tung regularly received late-night requests from a mysterious group known as Spark Alliance to provide legal assistance to demonstrators rounded up in street battles with police.

The 70-year-old lawyer was among several that Spark Alliance would tap to organize a defense, essentially a back-room operation that kept the demonstrations going for months despite thousands of arrests of young people -- many of whom couldn’t afford to make bail.

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Mr. T is incarnation of FuManChu a well known anti-China and pro-Japan, pro-Taiwan member. Both of them claimed to be resided in the UK. FuManChu got into many flame war with many members, but was very good at getting others banned. That's why it is unwise to engage in debate with him.

FuManChu claimed to be a Japanese at first but was later discovered to be a Taiwanese that pretends to be Japanese and probably reside in UK and has some friends that are from HK.

Imagine how quickly HK protests would've ended if an All American police force was sent there. By end of noon, the HK terrorists would be on their knees servicing their masters.

Are Korean pop-stars worried they might offend the US government like how Hong Kongers do when they stay silent over the police murder of George Floyd when they're hiding behind Hong Kong police brutality to plead to the world for help? No. Hong Kong protestors say nothing because they know if they offend the US government and point to their hypocrisy in their handling of their own police brutality, the US is less likely to give them support if any at all. That shows how these Hong Kong protestors don't understand the basics of what democracy is all about. They're just sucking up to whatever power carries out their agenda and not ideology like believing in democracy hence they praise the British, the US, and the Japanese who were the antithesis of it regarding China. The first instinct for Hong Kongers regarding George Floyd are to side with the authority in power not the people yet they want everyone seeing them hiding behind democracy. Hong Kongers are like teacher's pet. It's only important for them that the teacher likes them and no one else.

Gatekeeper said:

Interesting. I would love to delve into where the money cone from. The article just say donations from public.

Don't believe that for one minute. It's large amount in such shirt space of time! All the sudden, since account frozen no more donation comes in after trade deal? Hmmmm.

Hong Kong’s Protest Movement Is Running Out of Cash

By Kiuyan Wong

June 4, 2020, 5:00 PM EDT

Donations fall for main group providing legal assistance

Many young protesters need help making bail if arrested

At the height of last year’s protests in Hong Kong, Daniel Wong Kwok-tung regularly received late-night requests from a mysterious group known as Spark Alliance to provide legal assistance to demonstrators rounded up in street battles with police.

The 70-year-old lawyer was among several that Spark Alliance would tap to organize a defense, essentially a back-room operation that kept the demonstrations going for months despite thousands of arrests of young people -- many of whom couldn’t afford to make bail.

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I really wonder if people really understand what they say, or just talk for the sake of noisemaking.

For Wong, who recently traded in his car for a cheaper model, it’s the least he can do to help a younger generation of Hong Kongers facing a much bleaker future as China continues moves to stamp out dissent in the city.

“I wished my generation had done more in our time, and the kids wouldn’t have to suffer so much,” Wong said

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This guy is 70 years old. So basically he lived most his life under colonialism. Does he mean he should have participated in an uprising against British rule to create an independent HK like Singapore? Maybe he thinks the kids are "suffering" so much because of their government provided education and housing?

Here is another example:

Michael Davis, an American and a former University of Hong Kong law professor, said a key difference between the American and Hong Kong protests was that the US outpouring of anger was a result of racial injustice, which was rooted in slavery and had existed there for hundreds of years.

“Both places have in common a problem of violence in both the protest and the police behaviour,” he said. “Of course, a big difference in the US is, if this government fails to address the problem adequately, it can be voted out of office. A national election is approaching and local elections, as well.”

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He literally contradicted himself. Injustice can exist for hundreds of years, but don't worry, you can vote! Only 50 more years of racism, we promise!

Spot the difference.



Come on Boris make your"promise" a reality. And we shall we the "river of blood" speach again like the good old days



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