Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)

Gatekeeper

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This is the positive news you don't hear about while you're eating your evening dinner watching your news from your MSM.

All chinese pull together in times of crisis.!

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Show of support from Hong Kong lawyers!

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More support from Malaysians. Thank you to all compatriots in Malaysia.

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localizer

Colonel
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A new JAMA analysis shows that, out of the initial 138 patients, 40% was infected in hospitals by a single super spreader. This is to-date the most comprehensive clinical analysis of the outbreak.

JAMA is short for the journal of the American medical association, and is one of the leading clinical journals in the world.

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Not sure if that was the conclusion: :eek:

In this single-center case series of 138 hospitalized patients with confirmed NCIP in Wuhan, China, presumed hospital-related transmission of 2019-nCoV was suspected in 41% of patients, 26% of patients received ICU care, and mortality was 4.3%.
 

PiSigma

"the engineer"
Yeah, but this guy is a US Senator! He supposed to be level-headed, intelligent but yet he's acting like a retard!
He is a US politician... Which means his IQ is probably single digits. The combined IQ of all US Congress is probably less than 200. Just look at AOC, she was a bartender 2 years ago, and just said the American dream is dead! She is literally the embodiment of the American dream.
 

AssassinsMace

Lieutenant General
What do you guys think of this from U S Senator, Tom Cotton!?

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Tom Cotton is a right-wing extremist attention seeker. He thinks there's a conspiracy because it can't be a coincidence China's top bio-labs happens to be in the same area? Maybe it's there because that's where all the viruses show up. I hope the Chinese don't assume just because someone is a Senator, it means there's some prerequisite for a certain amount of intelligence required that's allows someone to become an elected official.
 

solarz

Brigadier
Let us take a look at Diamond Princess. Now in quarantine in Yokohama with 3600 on board.
A gentleman from Hongkong flew into Tokyo on Jan 17, and then went ot Yokohama where he joined that cruise on Jan 20.
Apparently he had no symptoms. That cruise stopped at a few cities, Keelung in Taiwan, a couple more in Vietnam and then stopped at Hongkong
where he got off on Jan 25. He felt well enough and seek medical only on Jan 30 when they found he got NCV.

He might not have infected all those on Diamond Princess. Perhaps he infected a few, maybe those that cleaned his room, or serving him at buffet.
Who might then gone and infect others. Or again, I be wrong and he infected all those infected on board.
Then what about the cities he visited and people he came across including HongKong from 25 to 30 Jan?

Here are some counter examples.

The first North American case of 2019-nCoV was from a man who boarded a flight from China to the US around Jan 15 (not exact date). Hundreds of fellow passengers in an enclosed space for over 10 hours. Today is February 8th, more than 3 weeks later. No explosion of cases.

Similarly, first case in Canada, a man from a Jan 21 flight. 18 days later, only his wife is infected.

In fact, almost every North American case is someone who recently returned from China or a family member of someone who did.

If the 2019-nCoV is really so contagious, why did we not see mass infections from all those flights?
 

siegecrossbow

General
Staff member
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Let us take a look at Diamond Princess. Now in quarantine in Yokohama with 3600 on board.
A gentleman from Hongkong flew into Tokyo on Jan 17, and then went ot Yokohama where he joined that cruise on Jan 20.
Apparently he had no symptoms. That cruise stopped at a few cities, Keelung in Taiwan, a couple more in Vietnam and then stopped at Hongkong
where he got off on Jan 25. He felt well enough and seek medical only on Jan 30 when they found he got NCV.

He might not have infected all those on Diamond Princess. Perhaps he infected a few, maybe those that cleaned his room, or serving him at buffet.
Who might then gone and infect others. Or again, I be wrong and he infected all those infected on board.
Then what about the cities he visited and people he came across including HongKong from 25 to 30 Jan?

Now look at another hot zone Singapore. Folks had and are cancelling flights and hotel bookings here even if they could not get refunds.
And let us look at these 3 cases ( Many more, but this give you an idea, including the earlier piece I wrote of the call girl from Wuhan. And Geylang is a
very well known red light area)

And you think how contacts can be traced down. Bear in mind that Hongkong gentleman was apparently healthy. Yet he infected others many days before his symptoms appeared

No idea how those three were infected. And likewise, no idea whom they infected before they felt sick enough to be tested.
In the school? Going to church? Visiting for CNY ? taking train and taxis? eating at food courts and restaurants? In waiting rooms of clinics?
Or even going to the Zoo!

Your guess as good as mine.

Exciting times are upon us all.

A few days ago, I wrote about Phase 2.
And like it or not, it is happening.


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Coronavirus: 42-year-old S’porean VJC teacher among 3 new cases, total cases at 33
The source of infection for all three new confirmed cases has not been identified.



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The Ministry of Health (MOH) announced three more confirmed cases of coronavirus on Feb. 7, bringing the total number of confirmed cases in Singapore to 33.

All three cases have no recent travel history to China and all of them are Singaporeans.

One of them is a 42-year-old teacher at Victoria Junior College (VJC).

Contact tracing is underway and the sources of infection for these three cases have not been identified.


Case 31: 53-year-old man stays at Tampines St 24
The 31st case of coronavirus in Singapore is a 53-year-old man who stays in Tampines Street 24.

According to MOH, he displayed symptoms on Jan. 23 and visited a general practitioner (GP) clinic on the same day.

He visited the GP clinic again on Jan. 28 and was admitted to CGH on Feb. 1.

He tested positive for the coronavirus on Feb. 6 at about 11pm.

Prior to admission to CGH, he went to The Life Church and Missions Singapore at 146B Paya Lebar Road and visited family and friends during the Chinese New Year (CNY).

He has no recent travel history to China. However, he visited Malaysia on Jan. 6, Jan. 11 and Jan. 17, 2020.

He is currently isolated at Changi General Hospital (CGH).

Case 32: VJC teacher
The 32nd confirmed case is a 42-year-old female Singaporean.

According to MOH, the 42-year-old has no recent travel history to mainland China.

The 42-year-old reported onset of symptoms on Feb. 2 and was admitted to Parkway East Hospital three days later on Feb. 5.

She tested positive for the virus on Feb. 6 at around 11pm.

MOH added that the patient did not interact with her colleagues and students after her symptoms appeared.

The VJC teacher stays at Elias Road and had visited Changi Airport as well as the Singapore Zoo.

She is currently warded in an isolation room at the National Centre for Infectious Diseases (NCID).

Case 33: 39-year-old female been to Malaysia during CNY period
The 33rd confirmed case in Singapore is a 39-year-old female who does not have travel history to mainland China but had been to Malaysia from Jan. 22 to Jan 29.

She developed symptoms on Jan. 30 and went to the emergency department at Sengkang General Hospital (SKH) on Feb. 2.

She tested positive for the virus on Feb. 6, 11pm.

She’s now isolated at SKH.

Along with the announcement of the new confirmed cases, the ministry has raised the Disease Outbreak Response System Condition’ (DORSCON) from Yellow to Orange. MOH has also implemented additional precautionary measures.

Cruise ships are notorious incubators for all kinds of communicable diseases. When you pack thousands of people into relatively tight spaces the infection rate is bound to increase.
 
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