Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)

solarz

Brigadier
So you agree that banning consumption of wildlife is not going to solve the problem then.

Maybe you should read what I actually wrote:

If there was any foreseeable fault in this, it's that wet markets were allowed to continue operating for so long. However, that is hardly the fault of the Wuhan authorities alone.

The point is the wet markets, which serves as an outlet for many illegally poached wildlife.

You don't seem to understand that the odds of a virus jumping into a human hosts increases with the number of humans it is exposed to. There is a huge difference between an illegal seller operating out of a van meeting a dozen customers a day and a wet market hosting hundreds of vendors and visited by tens of thousands of customers every day.
 
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Deleted member 13312

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We human need to consume animal meat to survive. We cannot ban the eating of every kind of meat. Handling the huge amount of "normal meat", like chicken, pork, beef and lamb, is already hard enough. We get bacterial contamination of some meat every once in a while, even in the US. Adding exotic wild animals to the equation makes proper handling even harder. The key point is that we do NOT need those wild animals. We have enough "normal meat" for consumption. In fact, in most countries, we eat too much of various kinds of meat, hence all the diseases like diabetes and cardiovascular disorders... We do NOT need more meat of wild animals.

Like I said a while back, the harms of eating wild animals massively outweigh the benefits of these exotic meats. Plus, most people in the world eat wild animals for the thrill of it or some mythical medicinal power, not to survive. Especially, in China, those who eat exotic wild animals typically pay big bucks. This is not an issue of survival, but luxury. Ban the eating of wild animals and tighten up the regulation for handling normal meats.

Will it solve everything? No! But any improvement will help.
a good example will be how Japan regulated the preparation and consumption of fugu.
 
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Deleted member 13312

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Maybe you should read what I actually wrote:



The point is the wet markets, which serves as an outlet for many illegally poached wildlife.

You don't seem to understand that the odds of a virus jumping into a human hosts increases with the number of humans it is exposed to. There is a huge difference between an illegal seller operating out of a van meeting a dozen customers a day and a wet market hosting hundreds of vendors and visited by tens of thousands of customers every day.
I do understand, just as well as I understand that banning wildlife is not going to stop their demand and consumption.
EDIT: And also just as I understand that people who contracted an illness from illegal wildlife meat are going to hide their symptoms which will make the problem worst. Just imagine how bad it would have been if the patient zero did not when to a hospital for fear of being arrested.
 
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PeoplesPoster

Junior Member
I do understand, just as well as I understand that banning wildlife is not going to stop their demand and consumption.
EDIT: And also just as I understand that people who contracted an illness from illegal wildlife meat are going to hide their symptoms which will make the problem worst. Just imagine how bad it would have been if the patient zero did not when to a hospital for fear of being arrested.

Regulating and actually enforcing cleanliness at places that sell food, livestock would be a good start. Some of those wet markets and food stalls are truly disgusting.
 

KYli

Brigadier
Regulating and actually enforcing cleanliness at places that sell food, livestock would be a good start. Some of those wet markets and food stalls are truly disgusting.

I think all of us agree more regulations and restrictions need to be in place but many of us disagree how far we should go.
 

Equation

Lieutenant General
for a thread that is about a disease in China.. there sure are quite alot of posts critisizing the US, it almost feels like half the posts are about the US instead of China.
just like how Indians keep on bringing up China even though the Chinese themselves don't care about India, alot of members here keep on bringing up the US, as if the current crisis is one that is between China & the US instead of it being an internal one between China & a disease.

Before or after the many US media and their band of China haters criticize the PRC with an agenda? I'm just pointing out the obvious. If the haters (not you included) out there doesn't want to be judge than don't judge others in the first place. o_O
 

Equation

Lieutenant General
Your thread was closed.

China isn’t the CCP. The Mandate of Heaven is still in effect and every dynasty reigns until the next takes its place. China as a whole or in parts will survive. The question is simply under whom? If the CCP doesn’t deliver its promises than like the emperors before it it will fall and a new regime will take its place. That is History.

Yeah but it takes a lot of incompetency with some serious consequences by the ruling party in order to regime change China internally. Trump and his band of administration wouldn't even cut it if they were CPC members.
 

manqiangrexue

Brigadier
for a thread that is about a disease in China.. there sure are quite alot of posts critisizing the US, it almost feels like half the posts are about the US instead of China.
just like how Indians keep on bringing up China even though the Chinese themselves don't care about India, alot of members here keep on bringing up the US, as if the current crisis is one that is between China & the US instead of it being an internal one between China & a disease.
That's a real funny complaint for someone who came to the coronavirus thread to spew misinformation (about viruses in general) and trash talk Xi Jingping until the Chinese patriots shut him down.

America's using this virus to fear-monger hoping it will hinder China's development, so Chinese people have a few words on that regard. Comprende?
 

solarz

Brigadier
I do understand, just as well as I understand that banning wildlife is not going to stop their demand and consumption.
EDIT: And also just as I understand that people who contracted an illness from illegal wildlife meat are going to hide their symptoms which will make the problem worst. Just imagine how bad it would have been if the patient zero did not when to a hospital for fear of being arrested.

Why ever would people disclose the fact that they ate illegally procured meat when they go to hospitals? It's not like that's critical information for diagnosis, lol!

You're just arguing for the sake of arguing now.
 
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