Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)

vesicles

Colonel
Doesn't stop there:

Ok, this is getting hilarious. So the virus attached to a cell phone is harmless because it’s neutralized by the “positive ions” from the phone?! So our cell phones only spit out “positive ions”? What happens to electroneutrality?! I guess, by inventing the cell phone, somehow we have managed to violate some of the most important physics laws in the universe?!

which part of the electrophysiology are we actually talking about here? Potential or charges?! My Goodness! This guy knows nothing of any modern science, physics, chemistry or biology...

Positive ions... it’s called cations, for God’s sake!
 
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localizer

Colonel
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It is consistent with a very basic model that I have built which is based on a R0 of 1.6. I expect by the end of the day the number will be close to 7,000 and to exceed 10,000 by the following day.

Brother can you share your model and also explain how to use R0 to predict how many people will be infected by certain time? Cuz I've read stuff and still don't get how to interpret it.
 

adiru

Junior Member
Registered Member
It is consistent with a very basic model that I have built which is based on a R0 of 1.6. I expect by the end of the day the number will be close to 7,000 and to exceed 10,000 by the following day.


And the article said if the model holds then its 100 million by Valetines day. Trump may ban all flights soon. And other nations might follow. This could end up causing a global recession as supply chain wrecks havoc in the short term, with long term consequence of lingering effects of isolating China on the world stage, as well as give US the pretext to completely decouple, and gives Americans the leverage to drive a hard bargain at the next trade deal ( kinda like Trumps one sided Israeli deal announced today) to force Xi and CCP to accept a Plaza Accord or else CIA drops a second even more deadly virus, wiping all Chinese out in one fell sweep... or turn all of mainland into the mess of Hong Kong and install the Taiwanese Womens president into Beijing as regime change just like his buddy Steve Bannon had hoped they would do.
 

solarz

Brigadier
Could you guys please stop with the ridiculous rumors? It doesn't matter if you're looking to mock it, this thread is for information on the 2019-nCoV. I don't want to see it cluttered with garbage.
 

antiterror13

Brigadier
And the article said if the model holds then its 100 million by Valetines day. Trump may ban all flights soon. And other nations might follow. This could end up causing a global recession as supply chain wrecks havoc in the short term, with long term consequence of lingering effects of isolating China on the world stage, as well as give US the pretext to completely decouple, and gives Americans the leverage to drive a hard bargain at the next trade deal ( kinda like Trumps one sided Israeli deal announced today) to force Xi and CCP to accept a Plaza Accord or else CIA drops a second even more deadly virus, wiping all Chinese out in one fell sweep... or turn all of mainland into the mess of Hong Kong and install the Taiwanese Womens president into Beijing as regime change just like his buddy Steve Bannon had hoped they would do.

whattttt :mad:
 

zgx09t

Junior Member
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We could most likely see a few spikes in infection of 2019-nCoV during the colder climes until warmer weather kicks in around April-May, much like its close cousin SARS-CoV. Looks like they come and go with the flu season.
According to WHO, SARS-CoV has 9.6 % death rate and MERS-CoV 34.4%. Compared to them, 2019-nCoV seems to be more infectious, but less lethal.
 
while I had been suspended (because of an unrelated issue, LOL)

I became aware of the claim

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shows a gathering reportedly "attended by more than 40,000 families so the city could apply for a world record for most dishes served at an event." in Wuhan on Saturday, January 18 (
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);

is that claim true? yes or no would do it

谢谢
 

Brumby

Major
Brother can you share your model and also explain how to use R0 to predict how many people will be infected by certain time? Cuz I've read stuff and still don't get how to interpret it.

And the article said if the model holds then its 100 million by Valetines day.

Frankly now the model is built is not the important part but what can be meaningfully interpreted from it. IMO there are at least two important takeaways.

I have added some notes to the graph and I will walk through what in my view are important components to it.

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It should be noted that the graph is in log scale. If it was in real terms the graph would look a lot more parabolic in presentation.

The first takeaway is that the infection rate is still expanding at an exponential level and no sign that the infection rate is slowing down. Therefore to answer the question - will we get to 100,000 within a week? No one knows but the model is projecting it will and so far the model is tracking in line with the reported infection numbers.
The second takeaway is whatever measures that are currently being taken is not slowing down the infection rate because the actual trajectory of the graph is not showing any slowing down. At some point I expect to see numbers indicating a slow down in infection rate via a deviation in actual data vs projected data as illustrated in the graph. When the incoming data starts to support such a state of slowing down then we will know but how soon can we see that is an unknown.
Finally, a 45 degree expansion angle is normally quite sustainable as a natural state but given it is in log scale, some reservation of such an interpretation would apply. In other words, my concern is it might have some way to go before the graph starts to slow down. .
 
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