Chinese Economics Thread
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AssassinsMace
Lieutenant General
That person wasted all their time putting that together for what? A taunt that will be disproven in 30 days? What is it with the anti-China side and their pettiness. It's like when the J-20 first came out. Because there were no pictures of the landing gear up, they would charge that the landing was fixed and couldn't go up. What's the point when they're just going to look stupid when they see pictures eventually of the landing gear up? Key Publishing seems to be out of business but I remember reminding those in there that claimed that and then they would deny they ever said it.
No I don't its a taunt. I think it is tongue-in-cheek, bordering on micky taking of all those doom and gloom merchants.
Because, all the factory closure, people idling, etc is because..... of the luna new year ( and not because of what the doomongers said)!
Please stop it, you can shout and scream about this "unequal" treaty till the cows come home. It won't make it true! We are on the same side of the coin, it just that we don't think it's unequal!
plawolf
Lieutenant General
Anyone claiming a lack of details means it’s a bad deal for China, have you been under a rock since 2016? Have anyone known of Trump to keep good news quiet? Especially in an election year and with him desperately needing to distract from his impeachment? If America got some super amazing deal, you can bet he would be bragging about it all over twitter before the ink on the agreement has even dried.
Seconded. Guy can't even keep classified military strikes quiet if they're wins.
The classified clauses are 100% for Trump to save face at home.
Maybe the hidden detail is that the 200 billion $ in purchases will be in sectors where foreign investors were denied before.
Americans get their cash infusion (just in time for eventual war with Iran too) and China buys out silicon Valley, the only major tech competitor to shenzhen and shanghai.
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There won't be a war with Iran. Never. There is no "Allied Support" for that ( read NATO support), even though Arabs and Israeli support exists. Furthermore, there won't be support of China, Russia and India along with those of non-aligned nations as a war with Iran tramples with the energy independence of these countries. There is also no home support. Trump came to power seeking to stop endless wars.
China can be seen buying American farm produce and bolstering Chinese IP protection rights as to meet "its end of the deal". But people are forgetting that China was very much affected due to the Swine fever outbreak and subsequent pork shortage. That caused inflation that would negatively affect the lower middle class and the poor households of China. You always take care of these segments of your society as a responsible developing country.
China has always talked about opening up its Financial market for some time. The opening up wouldn't be quick. It would be on China's own terms. This is the part where i'm interested in most. What exactly is China going to open up to the west within its Financial Market ? We have to wait and see.
China has bought time for bolstering its supply chain efficiency. US has forfeited its First Strike to the Blind spot advantages because of its political conditions (elections). China has dragged on the deal to ensure that the US caves in due to the China tariffs negative hit on MidWest/Great Plains farmer voter base. This year (2020) will give China time to rest and formulate new tactics.
What do you people (pro-China members here) really want ? A Trump presidency that has very weak international support or a Democrat presidency that calls for an Allied Response to China? Isn't Trump actually good for China ?
China can be seen buying American farm produce and bolstering Chinese IP protection rights as to meet "its end of the deal". But people are forgetting that China was very much affected due to the Swine fever outbreak and subsequent pork shortage. That caused inflation that would negatively affect the lower middle class and the poor households of China. You always take care of these segments of your society as a responsible developing country.
China has always talked about opening up its Financial market for some time. The opening up wouldn't be quick. It would be on China's own terms. This is the part where i'm interested in most. What exactly is China going to open up to the west within its Financial Market ? We have to wait and see.
China has bought time for bolstering its supply chain efficiency. US has forfeited its First Strike to the Blind spot advantages because of its political conditions (elections). China has dragged on the deal to ensure that the US caves in due to the China tariffs negative hit on MidWest/Great Plains farmer voter base. This year (2020) will give China time to rest and formulate new tactics.
What do you people (pro-China members here) really want ? A Trump presidency that has very weak international support or a Democrat presidency that calls for an Allied Response to China? Isn't Trump actually good for China ?
manqiangrexue
Brigadier
I think you have a reading comprehension problem. Lightizer said that some details are classified, so by your logic, it is not Beijing, but Washington trying to hide the details from its people for the bad deal it was forced to sign.