Seven J-15s on deck...
Yes, from December 8th ... but either the number is gone again or they covered it again but now differently to the last images we've seen.
CV-17 Shandong (002 carrier) Thread I ...News, Views and operations
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Yes, from December 8th ... but either the number is gone again or they covered it again but now differently to the last images we've seen.
by78
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Look again.
Some new reveals about 002. The source is reliable. But the messages are vague, and suggestive.
1) 002's power system is not a commonly defined conventional power system. Electrical propulsion?
2) Proper steps for catapult installation in the future have been taken during design and construction?
3) Her radar, electronics, and weapon system are all different from that of "Liaoning".
4) She will be combat ready once commissioned.
骄傲！专家一语道出国产航母的独到之处
Proud! Expert Reveals Uniqueness of 002
1) 002's power system is not a commonly defined conventional power system. Electrical propulsion?
2) Proper steps for catapult installation in the future have been taken during design and construction?
3) Her radar, electronics, and weapon system are all different from that of "Liaoning".
4) She will be combat ready once commissioned.
骄傲！专家一语道出国产航母的独到之处
Proud! Expert Reveals Uniqueness of 002
by78
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Look again.
Intrepid
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Your posting is about the new hull under construction in Shanghai, not the carrier that just arrived in Sanyo I guess?
003's radars and electronics would naturally, and logically conform to that of the 055. Her island mockup strongly suggests this. This includes a fixed four faced AESA radar like the one the Type 055 has, likely the same set. Why reinvent what works. She will likely use the same Type 346B from the 055.
002's electronics correspond to the 052D except for her CEC, and 001 to the 052C, although 001 had a big update on her ESM, ECM, SATCOM and CEC recently. 002's CEC is on the same level as the 055, and the last update to 001 brings that ship up to the same level. 003 will likely feature the same CEC unit and so does 075.
Lethe
Captain
The argument against 346B on 003 is the same as the argument against SPY-3/4 on Ford: it is a significant expense that duplicates escort capabilities and moreover makes it easier to find the carrier in wartime, i.e. by her radar emissions. My understanding is that in wartime carriers would typically be under emissions control so as to complicate the task of locating her. Of course the radar emissions from her escorts and AEW can be detected and serve as a general indication, but without further data this is likely insufficient to guide a missile salvo. A big radar set on 001 and 002 makes some sense owing to lower numbers of high-end AAW escorts in service at the time, and the lack of fixed-wing AEW, but 003 and beyond faces a calculus similar to Nimitz/Ford IMO. Unless the assumption is that there is no realistic prospect of concealing the precise location of China's carriers at sea...
Not only I guess her commission date is December 26th, I also guess her pennant number is "17", and her name is "Hunan".
Reasoning? Because the first 055 is named "Nanchang" to commemorate the "August First Uprising", so there must be some first-thing to commemorate the"Autumn Harvest Uprising".
In CPC's theory, the Autumn Harvest Uprising played a crucial role in defining what PLA is. It gave the birth of PLA's first sickle and hammer flag, It set PLA's political structure. It established PLA's political principle of "The party leads the gun." In short, the PLA would not exist if there were no Autumn Harvest Uprising.
The Autumn Harvest Uprising was led by Mao, occurred in Hunan, and Hunan also is Mao's home province. So, commissioning China's first home-made carrier in the name of Mao's home province on the date of Mao's birthday serves CPC's political goals well.
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