Hong-Kong Protests
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This was found today, looks like trying to sabotage the light railway. So it looks like the derailman a few weeks ago is not an accident after all! 
I don't think you are being unreasonable, so I will respond with my own thoughts.
1. "Someone active will stay active", I think you mean an activist will be pushed to continue with his activism with this action.
If you think about it logically, he (and many of the protesters) are concerned about democracy, but there are already elections! What are you protesting for then?
He got disqualified, so now he is saying this is Mickey Mouse election.
The way I see it:
What would he say if he was allowed to run and lost? He would say it's fixed.
What would he say if he was allowed to run and won? He would just say he has no power to change the system.
Whether he is elected or not, he will cause problems. Might as well keep his troublemaking outside of the government.
This isn't even taking into account the foreign influence. Posters above are not exaggerating. Meeting with foreign government officials including American embassy staff, foreign affairs are outside the purview of HK SAR constitution, that's not to say he "shouldn't or "can't", but I think it illustrates his true colours.
More logical thinking, this is a guy with no real job besides activism, never had a business or job before. Somehow he can fly all over the place and meet with all these people. As the saying goes, "just follow the money".
Forgot to address the Beijing part, obviously I don't represent the PRC government, but in my opinion, I think it plays a part, but really like I said, he has no true intention of trying to govern.
Yes, it is very hard to watch as the media and government officials in your own country make up garbage.
How can anyone take this ex-con seriously? He's a criminal with a criminal record, together with his refusal to accept Hong Kong is part of China. Garnishing support from foreign powers, obtaining funding from foreign powers to help with his education!
Starting and organising riots. Told the world he's not CHINESE! Because he's a "Hong Konger"!
And now he's got a cheek to ask for your votes!
Starting and organising riots. Told the world he's not CHINESE! Because he's a "Hong Konger"!
And now he's got a cheek to ask for your votes!
Watch this guys, the last riots in 1967, the British send in one of their few aircraft carrier HMS Bulwark to assist with their "softly softly treatment" of the rioters! Lol.
In future, if Armistice International or anyone should ever complaints about Hong Kong police treatments of the thugs, we should show them this video.
In future, if Armistice International or anyone should ever complaints about Hong Kong police treatments of the thugs, we should show them this video.
SteelBird
Colonel
I personally hope he'll stay in custody forever!!!
Jura The idiot
General
in short, to stand for elections is one of the basic human rights as far as I know, irrespective of "intentions" of the individual
(guess you heard of and -- unrelated to the current HK, but related to "intentions")
would be different if the whole movement was dissolved by authorities -- it happened even here and, as far as I know, concerned neo-Nazi and neo-Stalinists ("class struggle" by Marx if you know what that means) -- but yesterday in the evening I linked a substitute info I mean
EDIT I'll rephrase my whole point which is it would've been a good tactics of the authorities to let him run for a seat (now checked and it doesn't sound like much; plus it appears the support of his movement isn't high Yesterday at 7:36 AM)
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manqiangrexue
Brigadier
There's no such thing as a human right as far as I know. Rights are inalienable but everything you have and are allowed to do can be taken away from you as punishment for misbehavior in any society. Sometimes, punishment can befall you when you have not actually committed the crime (either by corruption or by mistake). As far as I know, every person lives under the complete mercy of society, if s/he conducts him/herself in an unacceptable manner as deemed by this society, everything, including life can be taken away. That's why "rights" and "freedoms" mean nothing to me; just do you best for your country and hopefully, your country will return the favor.
What if they let him run ( and get the votes) ? ...because banning him will only embolden the kid. He will become "that guy who dared to speak out and got oppressed by the EVIL CCP". He would become an idol - soon the name "Joshua Wong" would need to be censored within the Chinese internet.
Two scenarios -
1. The boy gets to run and fails miserably. Future seems bleak for him.
2. Boy Wins. Now it is time to blame everything bad with HK currently on him. I say Trap him and his administration in corruption and make his initial campain promises be revealed to be hollow, short sighted and harmful.He would be seen reversing his stance, backtracking and even defending many of the policies of the PRC and that makes him look like an opportunistic trickster. His win ascension and dethronement, the whole saga will help China make a point. The public support behind him would crater (slowly) and he would flee to US.
3. The boy wins and actually makes HK a better place - an Utopia. *chuckle*
Two scenarios -
1. The boy gets to run and fails miserably. Future seems bleak for him.
2. Boy Wins. Now it is time to blame everything bad with HK currently on him. I say Trap him and his administration in corruption and make his initial campain promises be revealed to be hollow, short sighted and harmful.He would be seen reversing his stance, backtracking and even defending many of the policies of the PRC and that makes him look like an opportunistic trickster. His win ascension and dethronement, the whole saga will help China make a point. The public support behind him would crater (slowly) and he would flee to US.
3. The boy wins and actually makes HK a better place - an Utopia. *chuckle*