075 LHD thread

asif iqbal

Lieutenant General
English please?

the launched 1st unit is outside the dry dock

how can they catch the 2nd and 1st in same photo ?

this photo is old
 

Tyler

Captain
Registered Member
English please?

the launched 1st unit is outside the dry dock

how can they catch the 2nd and 1st in same photo ?

this photo is old

It looks like they can launch the 2nd ship by next spring. The 3rd must be starting in the dry dock next to the 2nd ship.
 

Tam

Brigadier
Registered Member
Going to nitpick on the artwork. The artist bothered to put much detail into his 075, but some of the detail is already wrong. For example, there should be at least two SATCOMs on top of the bridge. That's clear enough from the photographs. He went and put in a Type 344 gun fire control radar, which I am not sure how its going to be useful on this ship. Instead I think the ship would put another Type 347G radar on top of the bridge to match the one facing aft. The Type 347G is CIWS radar typically found on top of Type 730 and 1130, but in this case, as in the case of Liaoning and 002, the radar is being employed as an approach and landing radar.

Another detail is that there are too many ESMs on the mast. There are only two sets of ESM in the photographs, not three. The extra, and the one that does not belong to the ship, are the pair that look like from the 054A; the other two sets are the Type 726-1 and -2 also used with the destroyers; 056 uses only Type 726-1. Only having the Type 726-1 and -2 are the correct ones.

He fitted the ESM/SIGINT/COMINT stalk with the TACAN on top, this is from the 055. This is not fitted on the 075 yet. The obvious place to put a TACAN on this ship should be over the Type 382, like it did with the Liaoning and 002, so this is a logical prediction. Currently the ship hasn't fitted its TACAN yet, which is a bit of surprise for me since they already fitted the Type 382.

I like the way he blackened the second mast where you have the dual faced dual band AESA on top. It reminds me of this aesthetic treatment on the 054A where the mast underneath the Type 364 radar is blackened. Currently this isn't painted on the ship, so the artist is making his own prediction as to this is how they will finally paint the ship.
 
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williamhou

Junior Member
Would be interesting to see how PLAN will deploy the LHDs when they are commissioned - could it be something similar to the ARG or ESG.
 

Jeff Head

General
Registered Member
Interesting article in Sina speculating about the LHD function as anti submarine ships. excerpt
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Recently, some netizens broke the news that the Chinese Navy has placed orders with the shipyard and ordered three 075-type amphibious assault ships in one breath. Previously, the news about 075 has been constant, 075 has almost formed a situation that is ready to be launched , perhaps 075 has already been established, and the waiting is now the over. If the information of the netizen is true, then the construction of the 075 will start soon. I believe that soon, you can see that the segment appears in the shipyard.

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  As for why China is preparing to build three 075-type amphibious assault ships in one breath, the biggest root cause is that China needs to make up for its own shortcomings. This short board is not a lack of amphibious landing ship combat equipment, but our army anti-submarine short board has been unable to obtain a fundamental solution. Of course, even the US military can't confidently say that it has solved the anti-submarine problem. However, the US military with a large number of anti-submarine equipment can be said to be very powerful. In contrast, China's anti-submarine capability in the offshore due to the lack of a large number of fixed-wing anti-submarine aircraft, so the anti-submarine strength has been greatly restricted, although the service of Gaoxin No. 6 solved the urgent need, but the number of equipment can not catch up in a short time, so we Still need to wait for a while.

For the anti-submarine in the open sea, our army's anti-submarine strength is very problematic. Just relying on the sound of the destroyer and one or two anti-submarine helicopters, the anti-submarine capability can be described as stretched. At this time, if there is a "small flat top" with 30 anti-submarine helicopters, then the anti-submarine strength of our army in the far sea will be flush with the US military. So, the rapid construction of three ships 075 is very meaningful!

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  The Type 075 amphibious assault ship is a type of netizen's large-scale amphibious warship designed for China. The deck of the 075 is designed as a straight-through deck. It is generally considered to have four helicopter landing points, at least two lifts, and capacity. Huge helicopter hangar, there is also a huge docking cabin under the hangar to carry a certain number of 726A domestic hovercraft. In 2012,

At the Abu Dhabi Defense Exhibition, China once showed an amphibious assault button on a straight-through deck. According to the information, the ship's displacement was 25,000 tons. But this is only an amphibious assault ship used by China for export. The displacement of 25,000 tons is not what China can see now. The future 075 should reach 40,000 tons of displacement, similar to the US amphibious assault ship wasp.

The dimension of the Type 075 amphibious assault ship should be 250 meters wide and 30 meters wide, and can accommodate more than 30 helicopters at the same time. It can accommodate about 4 straight 18 transport helicopters, 6 straight-20 universal transport helicopters, 4 straight 10 attack helicopters, 12 anti-submarine helicopters derived from straight 20, 6 card 28 anti-submarine helicopters, etc., or other Helicopter matching, depending on the target of the campaign, the related helicopters will also be different.

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 This is just the carrying capacity of a 075 amphibious assault ship. When three ships are simultaneously in the formation of the aircraft carrier, their anti-submarine strength will be very strong. Imagine more than 30 anti-submarine helicopters relaying anti-submarine. The perimeter of the Chinese fleet will become a striking submarine. The giant network, the anti-submarine helicopter and the destroyer sonar, coupled with the advanced anti-submarine torpedo, China will have the same anti-submarine strength as the United States, so that any submarine that intervenes to challenge the Chinese fleet will be strangled in the depths of the ocean. ( sharp blade / Zhang Yang)

  "Out of the sheath" is a full start on Sina Weiwei official WeChat every day. "Out of the sheath" full content can scan the picture QR code to pay attention to Sina military official WeChat preemptive view (see the details of the WeChat public number: sinamilnews)
It is an impressive LHD/LHA vessel.

But short of STOL UAVs, they will not be able to launch real fixed wing jet aircraft until the PLAN developes something like the F-35B.

That is why right now the F-35B is such a gam changer...it is allowing nations that have vessels like "that" to turn them ito pretty powerful VTOL aircraft carriers with a super sonic, stealth, 5th generation aircraft.

One such carrier with a decent escort of ships with strong AAW air defence becomes a significant threat to Chinese carriers that can easily carry twice as many aircraft. But if they remain the 4th generation J-15s, they stand into significant danger against 12-20 F-35Bs.

I cannot wait for Trumpeter t put out the Type 075 in a 1/350 scale model. I will then create a true Chinese ARG and have it escorted by the Liaoning or the new carrier and its escorts too. That will be a significant group.

See my latest upgrade to my PLAN CSG including the Type 055s:

 

williamhou

Junior Member
It is an impressive LHD/LHA vessel.

But short of STOL UAVs, they will not be able to launch real fixed wing jet aircraft until the PLAN developes something like the F-35B.

That is why right now the F-35B is such a gam changer...it is allowing nations that have vessels like "that" to turn them ito pretty powerful VTOL aircraft carriers with a super sonic, stealth, 5th generation aircraft.

One such carrier with a decent escort of ships with strong AAW air defence becomes a significant threat to Chinese carriers that can easily carry twice as many aircraft. But if they remain the 4th generation J-15s, they stand into significant danger against 12-20 F-35Bs.

I cannot wait for Trumpeter t put out the Type 075 in a 1/350 scale model. I will then create a true Chinese ARG and have it escorted by the Liaoning or the new carrier and its escorts too. That will be a significant group.

See my latest upgrade to my PLAN CSG including the Type 055s:



With a dozen or two F-35Bs or equivalent, these mini carriers are totally different beasts from those with Harriers onboard, probably more capable and flexible than the likes of CV-16, CV-17 with J-15s in many scenarios.

China has just demonstrated how fast they could build these ships, even on their first attempt, as opposed to their slow progress in building "real" carriers. They are likely very cost-efficient as well. All they need is to develop a 5th generation VTOL multirole fighter. I am a bit surprised we have not heard/seen anything about it.
 

Biscuits

Major
Registered Member
With a dozen or two F-35Bs or equivalent, these mini carriers are totally different beasts from those with Harriers onboard, probably more capable and flexible than the likes of CV-16, CV-17 with J-15s in many scenarios.

China has just demonstrated how fast they could build these ships, even on their first attempt, as opposed to their slow progress in building "real" carriers. They are likely very cost-efficient as well. All they need is to develop a 5th generation VTOL multirole fighter. I am a bit surprised we have not heard/seen anything about it.

ASW carriers are more important, being a hard counter to submarines. USN has either the best or the second best undersea fleet in the world, it would be risky to fight head on.

A LHD with VTOL fighters would be vulnerable to submarines, and there’s nothing the planes on it can do that a land launched J-20 can’t. In fact, they’re individually worse.

Stacking the undersea domain in PLA’s favor is more important than further stacking the air domain.
 
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