Hong-Kong Protests

Nutrient

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Yeah, they'll be dead and under a tank long before Beijing decides to ruin the city with water deprivation throwing millions of patriots who live in Hong Kong under the bus with them.

I think a potentially severe reduction of drinking water should warn the Hong Kongers that they are very dependent on the mainland.

As for the patriots in HK, I don't see any million-strong pro-Beijing demonstrations. If these people don't show any courage now, why should Beijing give them much consideration later?
 
Old lady pulled the victim under the umbrella for mob lynching. Very Organized and premeditated. The victim was at wrong place and wrong time as lynching was premediated.






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Solo Lo, allegedly of Vietnamese descent has been identified as the assailant of the lady clearing above.
 

solarz

Brigadier
I think a potentially severe reduction of drinking water should warn the Hong Kongers that they are very dependent on the mainland.

As for the patriots in HK, I don't see any million-strong pro-Beijing demonstrations. If these people don't show any courage now, why should Beijing give them much consideration later?

I think even the most rabid anti-China terrorist knows HK depends on the mainland for a lot of things. They are simply deluded enough to think that their Western masters will come to their rescue.

As for the rallies, the anti-extradition rallies at their peak were only a few hundred thousand, and the Pro-China rallies matched them in numbers. There were never any million-strong rallies, those were bald faced lies.
 

manqiangrexue

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I think a potentially severe reduction of drinking water should warn the Hong Kongers that they are very dependent on the mainland.

As for the patriots in HK, I don't see any million-strong pro-Beijing demonstrations. If these people don't show any courage now, why should Beijing give them much consideration later?
Because that's how things degenerate. Beijing throws its silent patriots under the bus and they abandon their love for China. They are more frustrated than Beijing is that they did not match the rioters brick for brick and club for club. They've been attacked and bloodied in broad daylight for expressing love of their own country and Beijing has done nothing to protect them from these criminals. Where is China's military? Why should they continue to support the CCP? To love China when it seems that China has given up on them? They show their support for Beijing by steering clear of the riots and doing their jobs everyday contributing to China's Hong Kong. It is not a citizen's job to stand up to violent criminals; it is the state's job to provide its citizens safety from them. Beijing gives up on them because they haven't been extraordinary and they give up on Beijing. Hong Kong will really be lost. This is the direction that things will go in when you ask why should Beijing give them consideration. Beijing must give them consideration because they're patriots and every patriot, even silent ones and ones who aren't lion-hearts deserve the best that his or her country can provide.
 
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Nutrient

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Why should they continue to support the CCP? To love China when it seems that China has given up on them?

Because what Beijing is doing (or refraining from doing) may actually solve the problem in the long run?


They show their support for Beijing by steering clear of the riots and doing their jobs everyday contributing to China's Hong Kong.

Where are the massive rallies showing their support for the central government? If they can't be bothered to exert so little effort, why should Beijing take any risks for them?


It is not a citizen's job to stand up to violent criminals; it is the state's job to provide its citizens safety from them.

I'm not asking for an intra-Hong-Kong civil war. I'm asking the China patriots to show that they exist in overwhelming numbers, by holding a massive, peaceful demonstration. Then perhaps the rioters will start to think twice before rioting.


Hong Kong will really be lost.

If the China patriots don't prove that they're the overwhelming majority, perhaps Hong Kong is already lost -- or at least this generation. A few years of water deprivation may be needed to wake them to reality. If most of them really think they are superior to mainlanders, and this attitude is rigid, let them stink.
 

manqiangrexue

Brigadier
Because what Beijing is doing (or refraining from doing) may actually solve the problem in the long run?
But that's not what it feels like to a patriot living in Hong Kong who has to risk his health to speak up for his country. And it's also not what you're talking about, which is water deprivation and secession. I understand that Beijing has its own plan and I can only support that, but I'm saying that your water deprivation plan in the face of a non-existent declaration of secession is just nonsense. 1. There is not and things are not moving in such a direction. 2. If such a declaration is made, the response would not be slow deprivation but immediate military action. 3. Your plan is cruel to those who live in Hong Kong and are in support of China. Your plan is not grounded in a realistic situation and it also doesn't make any sense as to how it would achieve a positive effect and thus, it is not worth talking about.

Where are the massive rallies showing their support for the central government? If they can't be bothered to exert so little effort, why should Beijing take any risks for them?
Because it's not a citizen's job to rally; it's the government's job to keep them safe. They're doing their jobs by living their lives and contribution to society and the economy; the government isn't doing it's job of keeping them safe.

Reread https://www.sinodefenceforum.com/hong-kong-protests.t8580/page-222#post-574892

I'm not asking for an intra-Hong-Kong civil war. I'm asking the China patriots to show that they exist in overwhelming numbers, by holding a massive, peaceful demonstration. Then perhaps the rioters will start to think twice before rioting.
Once again, it's not anybody's job to stop a riot other than the government's. Right now, the government is doing so poorly that it's dangerous in Hong Kong to show support for the Chinese flag, so the patriots are staying safe. Nothing is their fault.

If the China patriots don't prove that they're the overwhelming majority, perhaps Hong Kong is already lost -- or at least this generation. A few years of water deprivation may be needed to wake them to reality. If most of them really think they are superior to mainlanders, and this attitude is rigid, let them stink.
Yeah, how about you figure this out by yourself. You live in Hong Kong; you love China, you speak up and end up in the hospital. Your free speech wasn't protected by the government you loved. Then you get out of the hospital, go home, and you've got no water cus Beijing cut you off. How do you feel? You're talking about depriving water to school children who salute the Chinese flag every morning. Meanwhile, every Western government will jump on this, telling the people of Hong Kong that they wish to deliver them and their children drinking water but the CCP is blocking them. You've got to be mental to think that that would make people love China. Water deprivation is regarded as one of the cruelest methods in humanity. You can intervene with the military using deadly force against every violent thug with a black mask and yellow hat without crossing nearly as many lines as water deprivation to a whole city. The latter will actually result in international condemnation and sanctions that the former will not because China has a very good case for military intervention with the level of violence in Hong Kong. But water deprivation? It is indefensible; it is a crime against humanity.
 
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before, what's peculiar is his
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anyway below is the link to his interview when he criticizes HK education, democracy, of course the protests:
Color revolution will not succeed in Hong Kong: Exclusive interview with Ian Fok, one of HK’s most influential figures
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