Hong-Kong Protests

Shaolian said:

There is a video I was watching showing students turning on their school teachers now. They are shouting obscenities, shining lasers and threatening their teachers (by asking him whether his house needed any free "renovation"). A total lack of respect for authority.

Apparently, some educators are now reaping the seeds that they sow.

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That college professor is pro-China so those students surrounded him to force him to apologize. When that professor refused and called for police, the college administrators put him in a room with those students to sort out their difference and blocked the police from entering the college campus. This kind of nonsense can only happen in HK.

Due to the inaction of many schools and encouragement from some teachers, many students have become deeply involved in the rioters. The police had just reported that 55% of the recently arrested are students. Also 10% of them are under 15 years old and 40% of them are under 18 years. Basically, middle students have become the backbone of the recent riots.




Yao Liansheng Middle School of the Liwan Bureau of Liwan was smashed and vandalized by the "black Shirt". During the class yesterday, it was discovered that the calibration door was swayed and magnified. There were also broken glass doors in the school. The fragments were scattered. The school walls and the open roads were sprayed with words such as "release" and "reject white terror". The external walls of Shifang Building in Shiweijiao Village were also written with the words "Guangfu Yao Liansheng".

After the school staff cleaned up, they encountered demonstrations at about 4 pm yesterday. About 80 people responded to the online launch of the "pick up students after school" campaign. Some of them were wearing school uniforms, masked students and "black shirt people". After entering the school, the principal is required to explain the handling of physical conflicts between studnets different political views. During this period, some people throw trash cans and eggs into the school's outer wall. Some people also removed the nearby pedestrian rail fence to block the school gate and graffiti.

According to the news, a fifth grade student tore down slogan on the wall in the school last week, the "anti-extradition law" slogan was removed from the school. The personal photos of that student were posted by different students in the school's male toilet. The middle school fifth grade student have physical altercations with third grade students. A group of third grade students heard about the conflict and got involved. After the teacher understood the accusation, the third-grade students were

荃灣中學遭蒙面人闖入破壞

(星島日報報道)暴力示威蔓延校園，荃灣一所中學上周有學生撕走校內連儂牆「反修例」標語後，有不同政見學生肢體衝突，校方的處理手法，引起部分人士不滿，八十名包括身穿校服學生及「黑衣人」，昨響應號召到校園「大裝修」報復，校內玻璃門被擊碎，又圍堵校門，部分人更闖入校園投擲雞蛋、垃圾桶和堵塞大門，校方報警，一批防暴警其後到場驅散人群。對於校園遭到破壞，校方表示全體師生均感傷心及震驚。

荃灣保良局姚連生中學遭「黑衣人」闖入大肆破壞。昨早上課時，有人發現該校正門被人擺放大批雜物，校內亦有玻璃門破碎，碎片四散，學校外牆及對開馬路則被噴上「放人」、「拒絕白色恐怖」等字句，鄰近石圍角邨石芳樓外牆也遭人寫上「光復姚連生」等字眼。

校方人員清理後，至昨午四時許又遭遇示威，約八十人響應網上發起「荃民接放學」活動包圍該校，部分身穿校服、戴上口罩的學生和「黑衣人」更闖入校內，要求校長交代不同政見學生肢體衝突事件的處理手法，其間有人向學校外牆投擲垃圾桶和雞蛋等物品，亦有人拆走附近行人路鐵欄堵塞校門，並大肆塗鴉。

為免遇襲，大部分教職員不敢步出校園，聚集者不斷向他們叫囂，並持續向校內投擲雜物，有玻璃窗遭擊碎，至昨午約五時半，數十名手持圓盾及警棍的防暴警接報到場驅散人群，聚集人士隨即四散，教職員及後陸續離開，警員在附近截查包括學生的途人，約半小時後離去。

消息稱，該校上周有中五學生撕走校內連儂牆「反修例」標語後，其個人照片遭政見不同學生貼在校內男廁，該中五生其後與一名懷疑涉事的中三學生發生肢體衝突，一批中三同學聞訊群起指罵中五生，老師了解後指責該批中三學生行徑錯誤，當天要求家長到場「接放學」，及後有人在網上控訴校方包庇中五生，又質疑拒絕學生自行放學是「禁錮」，有網民遂於昨日發起「聲援」行動。

校方回應，上周已即時調查事件並協助受影響的學生，將按校規懲處行為不當的學生，並指為保障學生安全，在諮詢家長意見後，有家長表示希望親自到校接回子女，部分家長到校需時，澄清絕無任何禁錮行為。

對於遭受破壞，校方表示全體教職員及學生皆感傷心、難過與震驚，並指已通知警方跟進，將致力營造安全學習環境，讓同學免受外界干擾。

solarz said:

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Unbelievable! Hong Kong is burning and the authorities are still dithering over investments and credit ratings!

If anyone still needed more proof of the dysfunctional incompetence of the HK government, this is it.

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There is supposed to be council elections next month.Lets see if there is any backlash against
Sitting members.

manqiangrexue said:

Of all the things I've seen and heard in the history of China since 1949, this is the first time I have truly felt that the CCP is cruel. They let a patriot be beaten to death in his own country by traitors and they did not act because they held on to their strategy. I suppose that's a trait needed in a worthy commander but it is not in me. I would have ordered the full military force of the nation down on the cowards responsible and made a medieval public display of their fate to show all of China and the world the end that awaits Chinese traitors, especially those who dare attack men far better than themselves, men brave and honorable enough to be patriots. If I were the captain of a nearby PLA garrison, I would have rejected my orders and marched on them doing as much as I can to them until another PLA garrison arrived to stop me. Whatever consequences there would be would be an afterthought to the justice that must be delivered.

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Well isn't that what the "protestors" and the U.S. are hoping for? They want an over reaction from the CCP to send in the military to put down the HK protests because it gives the U.S. and its backers a valid reason on the world stage to slap sanctions on China and gain leverage in the trade war. They want a repeat of Russia and the Ukraine situation.

From China's POV, I think the CCP is doing the right thing politically by avoiding any form of direct intervention but at the same time condemning external entities and parties who support the rioters. CCP's lack of intervention and response is the main reason the rioters are becoming more and more violent - they are losing patience.

I still think that China's best course of action is to wait it out, but engage rioters and external parties behind-the-scenes. Eventually the HK population will start to turn against those protesting because extended periods of disruption is unsustainable.

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B.I.B. said:

There is supposed to be council elections next month.Lets see if there is any backlash against
Sitting members.

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I doubt the council elections would be held. Carrie Lam has hinted that she is considering to cancel the election if the violence persists. To be honest, I believe the rioters still have popular support. Many people still excuse any wrongdoings by the rioters.

If anything fear of retribution from the mob may keep the pro-China camp silent.

muddie said:

Well isn't that what the "protestors" and the U.S. are hoping for? They want an over reaction from the CCP to send in the military to put down the HK protests because it gives the U.S. and its backers a valid reason on the world stage to slap sanctions on China and gain leverage in the trade war. They want a repeat of Russia and the Ukraine situation.

From China's POV, I think the CCP is doing the right thing politically by avoiding any form of direct intervention but at the same time condemning external entities and parties who support the rioters. CCP's lack of intervention and response is the main reason the rioters are becoming more and more violent - they are losing patience.

I still think that China's best course of action is to wait it out, but engage rioters and external parties behind-the-scenes. Eventually the HK population will start to turn against those protesting because extended periods of disruption is unsustainable.

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Yes, you are right, but as I had already noted in my post, I do not possess the patience, reptilian coldness, or tact to be a worthy strategic commander for Beijing. I am a hot-blooded man who ascribes to a more primal philosophy:

“The greatest happiness is to vanquish your enemies, to chase them before you, to rob them of their wealth, to see those dear to them bathed in tears, to clasp to your bosom their wives and daughters.” - Genghis Khan

manqiangrexue said:

Yes, you are right, but as I had already noted in my post, I do not possess the patience, reptilian coldness, or tact to be a worthy strategic commander for Beijing. I am a hot-blooded man who ascribes to a more primal philosophy:

“The greatest happiness is to vanquish your enemies, to chase them before you, to rob them of their wealth, to see those dear to them bathed in tears, to clasp to your bosom their wives and daughters.” - Genghis Khan

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That's why you are not a political leader and decision maker. By the way, even though Genghis Khan did say that, people like us tend to overlook the sorrows and sufferings the people of the steppes endured for the majority of their life back in Genghis Khan's era. We only see their glory, their triumph, the booty of their conquest, and we envy them. But we don't see that for most of history, the people of the steppes has much much tougher and less happy lives than the civilized agrarian centers. We would have perished, either from physically hardship or mental grief/sorrow, if we have to live like them. So, let the steppe people have their fugacious moments of plunder and fun.

BTW, I am NOT lumping the HK rioter together with nomads from the steppes. Those HK brats aren't even worthy to be put in the same sentence with those nomads.

Most of the active rioters right now are students, unemployed, and temporary workers. So I am not surprised that they are desperate for money. All those gears are pretty expensive to obtain especially if you are out of jobs. Just don' understand why people would just allow them to search and extort.

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暴徒收「過路錢」毆劫司機
The mobs set up roadblocks to attempt robbery, and the drivers in the city were heart-wrenching. Many car owners have recently accused the mobs of intercepting and collecting "transit money". Some cars window have been smashed, and the people with different political views have been taken out of the car beaten. Yesterday, the WhatsApp group circulated that a citizen who served as the honorary president of the JPC was robbed by the mob when he drove through Lung Cheung Road. The mobs took away $7,000 dollar in the wallet and claimed it is donation to the rioters.

The Chief of the New Territories North Region, Mr Kwong Yam-yong, said at a police press conference yesterday that in Tuen Mun, Yuen Long, Tsuen Wan, Tseung Kwan O and Eastern District, there were reports of mobs forcibly checking the drivers and passengers' personal belongings and mobile phones, indicating that the interception was necessary to find out off-duty police officers or citizens who hold opposing opinions. On the 6th, after the driver was beaten out of the car by a mob and found to have lost property, the police have stepped up patrols and arrested 19 people in various districts for alleged "illegal assembly" and "blocking police officers from performing duties".

Li Yaopei, president of the Automobile Association, was interviewed by Ta Kung Pao. He heard that the road conditions were very bad, the roads were blocked, and the traffic lights at the crossroads were destroyed. The accident of collision of vehicles has soared recently. He urged the driver to try to avoid the blocked road and pay attention to safety.

【大公報訊】暴徒自設路障攔途截劫，全城司機人心惶惶。多名車主近日控訴遭暴徒截停收取「過路錢」，有車主更被打爛車窗，政見不合的車主被揪出車圍毆。昨日WhatsApp群組流傳，一名擔任少年警訊名譽會長的市民，駛經龍翔道時遭暴徒攔住掠劫，取走銀包內的7000元現金「捐畀義士」，慨嘆遭暴徒滅聲、白色恐怖。

　　新界北總區指揮官郭蔭庸昨日在警方記者會上表示，近日在屯門、元朗、荃灣、將軍澳、東區都接報有暴徒強行檢查司機及乘客的隨身物品和手提電話，表明截車是要揪出休班警務人員或持相反意見的市民。6日，有司機被暴徒揪出車外毆打後，發現遺失財物，警方已加強巡邏，於各區拘捕19人涉嫌「非法集結」及「阻止警務人員執行職務」等罪名。

　　汽車會會長李耀培接受《大公報》訪問，有聽聞遭遇，坦言路面狀況十分惡劣，路障阻路，加上十字路口的交通燈被破壞，車輛發生碰撞的意外近日急升。他呼籲駕駛者盡量避開被堵塞的道路，注意安全。