052C/052D Class Destroyers

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There are speculations on the Chinese forums that one of these two previously launched 052Ds will receive the pennant number 120.

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Bhurki

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There are speculations on the Chinese forums that one of these two previously launched 052Ds will receive the pennant number 120.
Isn't that assigned to Chengdu ( no.12) ?
Chinese wiki says one of these dual launch ships will have 122 pennant, named as tangshan
 

azretonov

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Nice, and this baby would be an equivalent of Japanese Atago or Kongo class ?

I think Atago may be more capable than 052D in many aspects

I believe their primary roles are quite different. 052D is more of a multi-purpose vessel while both Atago and Kongo are AAW focused vessels with exceptional BMD capability. Which is why I'd personally avoid such comparisons.
 

Tetrach

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Nice, and this baby would be an equivalent of Japanese Atago or Kongo class ?

I think Atago may be more capable than 052D in many aspects

Two designs based on different doctrines of conception.
The Atago is mainly a anti-air vessel. It carries a lot of mk-41 cells thanks to their medium size. It's not a problem as anti-air missiles mainly evolve through new stages, adding length and not diameter. As such a single hull can carry as many anti-air missiles as possible.

In comparison a Type 52D carries much bigger cells and as such more capable missiles (recently we had first real images of the ship-based YJ-18 and it's gigantic in diameter~650mm at least). HHQ-9 and CY-1/5 are also quite big. These missiles can't hold in an Mk-41 cell like the one found on the Atago. Bigger cells, but it means less by Sq meters so less cells in overall. One would defines it as a multirole vessel.

In term of electronics they're very similar imo.
 
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Iron Man

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Two designs based on different doctrines of conception.
The Atago is mainly a anti-air vessel. It carries a lot of mk-41 cells thanks to their medium size. It's not a problem as anti-air missiles mainly evolve through new stages, adding length and not diameter. As such a single hull can carry as many anti-air missiles as possible.

In comparison a Type 52D carries much bigger cells and as such more capable missiles (recently we had first real images of the ship-based YJ-18 and it's gigantic in diameter~650mm at least). HHQ-9 and CY-1/5 are also quite big. These missiles can't hold in an Mk-41 cell like the one found on the Atago. Bigger cells, but it means less by Sq meters so less cells in overall. One would defines it as a multirole vessel.

In term of electronics they're very similar imo.
I'm fairly certain a CY-1 could fit inside a 650x650mm Mk-41 cell, since it looks to be very much in the same class as VLA. I think even an S-300 could also fit into a Mk 41 given that its wings fold, so its total dimensions will not be much greater than its diameter of 500mm. Which means that HHQ-9 could fit for sure since it's smaller than an S-300.
 
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