China test ASAT II

toisanwu

Just Hatched
Registered Member
People in this thread are talking about satillite destruction as if it were a light matter. Its not. It is an act of war, and one of the more provocative acts of war at that. Especially in realtion to the US. The United States is so dependent on its satillites that it would respond VERY angrily to an attack on them.
Finn McCool

Any nation has the right to destroy their own satellites or whatever they have. Destroying other nations' satellites without provocation of course would be seen as an act of agression.

But during a military conflict, using ASAT is a fair game on those spying or military satellites.
 

clarkliu

New Member
Any nation has the right to destroy their own satellites or whatever they have. Destroying other nations' satellites without provocation of course would be seen as an act of agression.

But during a military conflict, using ASAT is a fair game on those spying or military satellites.

yes that is right. And you can claim that any objects flying above the land belongs to that nation or an invasion. So, you can shot it down of course. If your satellites want to fly over chinese territory, china can shot it down.
 

Scratch

Captain
It may be rather old news but I havn't found it in this thread before.
The ASAT test seems to have been precedated by three unsucessfull tests.
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A U.S. official, who would not agree to be identified, said the event was the first successful test of the missile after three failures.

So it was probably no magical leap out of nothing, but on the other hand, why wasn't there an outcry before then?

About that putting an object on a certain orbital tracjorety where it collides with another. Once you've done something once, it becomes always easy.
It's a bit like in school somewhat. When you look at perhaps math-books of two grades abouve yours, you will see only hieroglyphics. When you are there and do it the first time, it's a great success. Two years later it's just simple.
 

ordinary dude

New Member
I think the comment made by Gen. Pace is to arose public support for the military (aka more funding). The US is not behind anybody in ASAT tech, they used fighter jets in high altitude to fire missiles at satellites in the 80s. Yes, the recent test by the Chinese is very impressive, and previous "painting" of US satellites via laser is good too, but lets not get ahead of ourselves here and claim China is ahead of the US now.
 

DPRKPTboat

Junior Member
That satellite was destroyed by a kinetic kill vhecile - souns to be like a space-bourne battering ram. That's a relatively primitive way of destroying a satellite (ingineous though). So far, no reports have emerged of China testing any lasers or space-nukes, apart from theories coming from the Pentagon. Could it be that China's space weapon's programme is only in its infancy right now? It could be ages before they develop anything like the "star wars" system.
 

AssassinsMace

Lieutenant General
Kinetic energy is the norm. It's space. Weight is an issue generally when launching anything into space. More weight, the more money it costs. Larger blast = larger warhead = more weight = more money. Since everything has to be light, there's nothing you would call armor for anything in orbit. You just need something to hit whatever you're aiming at to do the job.
 

fishhead

Banned Idiot
Highly credited source disclosed that China will conduct another ASAT test this month(April), still KKV but different from the last time.

This month China will launch sea-monitoring sat(hy-1, launched today), 2nd BD-2 sat, and conduct ASAT test.
 

Schumacher

Senior Member
Report that the debris from the ASAT test is wider than first thought. Have always thought that the talk abt debris is of future potential threats from more ASAT tests.
Am beginning to wonder if the debris from the test few months ago is already now causing some problem for US LEO sats' surveillance on China. Perhaps this is all part of a plan ?

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U.S. details China satellite debris
Tue Apr 10, 2007 11:31PM EDT

By Jim Wolf

COLORADO SPRINGS, Colorado (Reuters) - A larger than previously reported debris field from China's antisatellite test in January has boosted risks to spacecraft in a wide range of orbits, the U.S. Air Force Space Command said on Tuesday.

"The Chinese ASAT test has certainly increased the collision risk to all of the roughly 700 active spacecraft with (orbital low ends) below approximately 4,000 kms," the command said in reply to queries from Reuters.

Such "low-Earth" orbits are home to satellites used for communications, scientific and environmental monitoring and weather predicting, as well as the International Space Station.

The biggest U.S. satellite manufacturers are Lockheed Martin Corp., Boeing Co. and Northrup Grumman Corp.

The test "made clear that space is not a sanctuary," Ronald Sega, undersecretary of the Air Force, told reporters at a space-industry forum in Colorado Springs, Colorado.

On January 11, China shattered one of its aging weather satellites with a ground-based missile -- the first such test since the United States and the Soviet Union halted 20 years ago, concerned about satellite-threatening debris.

The Air Force is planning to spend more than $400 million over the next five years to promote "operationally responsive space," including small satellites that could be launched quickly to replace any downed by a foe.

Raytheon Co., a Waltham, Massachusetts, defense contractor, said at the industry symposium it would step up its efforts to meet the emerging "launch on demand" market.

"Raytheon sees this area of the space business growing quickly as asymmetric threats make the need for up-to-date, detailed information critical to the safety and success of our warfighters," said Brian Arnold, a retired Air Force general who runs many of the company's advanced space programs.

Los Angeles-based Northrop Grumman, another big space contractor, was to hold a press conference Wednesday to announce a "rapid response space surveillance initiative."

The Space Command is tracking more than 1,600 pieces of the Chinese target, the Feng Yun 1C weather satellite, and most are expected to remain in orbit for "decades," Masao Doi, a command spokesman, said in an e-mail.

Last month, Gen. Kevin Chilton, commander of the Air Force Space Command, gave Congress a less precise figure. He said then the test had added more than 1,000 pieces to the man-made debris tracked by the Air Force since Moscow launched its Sputnik satellite in 1957.

On January 10, 2007, the catalog of man-made debris consisted of 14,406 orbiting objects, meaning the Chinese test added more than 10 percent of the 50-year total in an instant, according to the update from the Peterson Air Force-based space command, outside Colorado Springs.

With about 10 countries and consortia able to launch payloads into space and about 40 countries owning assets in orbit, "space debris affects us all," Doi said.

"The need to protect our space capabilities is as important now as ever and robust space situational awareness is critical to performing this function," he said. Such awareness involves the ability to know what other countries are putting in space.

Almost all of the bits being tracked are smaller than one square meter, Doi said. In addition, "it is expected that there are many more pieces of debris associated with breakup of the FY-1C that are too small to be detected by the Air Force's Space Surveillance Network."

Tracking the potentially destructive shards is performed by the 1st Space Control Squadron located at Cheyenne Mountain Air Force Station, near the Peterson base.

Before the FY-1C event, the largest breakup was of a U.S. Pegasus rocket body in June 1996 for which 712 individual debris pieces were tracked and cataloged, the command said.
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szbd

Junior Member
They are just fooling around. That's a space bigger than the earth. It's like saying a missile test in the air is threatening all the aircraft in the whole world.
 
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