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Hong-Kong Protests
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bluewater2012
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I could not watch the FB video but watched a similar video happened this past weekend on youtube and I’m presuming this is the same video about an old man with tattoo in the arm trying to leave the area in a taxi after being harassed by rioters for filming them.
The moment the victim exit the taxi he was hit on the head by a guy in red standing next to him with the victim phone and then his head was covered with bloods the moment he fell to the floor.
I rewatch that scene several time to find out where the bloods came from and noted before he was struck in the head with the phone, someone among the crowd either from the above crowd or behind camera shot a pellet at the victim head. I heard a shot sound before he was struck in the head with the phone. I personally think it’s similar to the weapon that blinded the girl right eye a month back that they blamed it on HK police.
solarz
Brigadier
I actually agree with them. They should do everything they said, otherwise they're just spineless hypocrites.
Beijing should strip every single one of them of Chinese citizenship and send them to Australia in container ships. I'm sure the Aussies will welcome them with open arms... right?
I doubt I'm confused about the Cultural Revolution. You seem to have totally bought the elite propaganda -- which after all was written by the elite. Until recently with Han Dongping's book, the vast majority of China's population -- 80% of which consisted of farmers during the CR -- has been silenced.
Where do you think the Red Guards came from? Answer: from the areas with most of the population, i.e. the rural regions.
Some motivations for the CR may have been political, but the main reason it had such broad support throughout the Communist Party was the it was intended mostly to help the farmers.
I notice that you completely ignored Han Dongping's statistics showing the vast improvement in rural life during the CR.
No, it tells me that by 1976, the farmers had reached a point of diminishing returns, and they were willing to end the CR.
By 1965, the Communist Party had already been in power for sixteen years. Why didn't the rural standard of living improve nearly as much before the CR as it did during the CR?
It is clear to me that the current Hong Kong riots will not last as long as the Cultural Revolution; the HK people do not support the riots as overwhelmingly as the farmers supported the CR. Hong Kongers will not tolerate the violence for ten years.
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The blame for coddling or catering to big money special interests including property developers goes all around the Hong Kong political spectrum, including both pro-government and anti-government camps such as those who support the current riots. Note that none of the peaceful protesters', violent rioters', nor their supporters' demands have to do with the cost of living or housing.
I do agree with the parts of your post that there was a lot of setting Hong Kong and China up for the fall by the British colonial administration in its final years, the effects of which are still felt today. The reason why not much has been done to alter these arrangements such as the judicial system is because they are in fact beneficial to Hong Kong's entrenched big money special interests and established role servicing trade between China and the West. Again this is something the entire political spectrum of Hong Kong is guilty of, both the leadership and the ordinary people who are too risk averse to prepare for the inevitable time when there will not be a need for a middleman for trade between China and the West.
It is also clear that the thugs are growing more vicious because they are getting desperate to provoke a Beijing intervention. The rioters (or their controllers) must know that they are rapidly bleeding support, and they want some reaction from Beijing while they still have local sympthasizers.
Your snippets only say that the Red Guards were mostly students, but do not say where the students came from. This is an English-language forum, so I will counter with an :
(Emphasis added.) (I don't agree with the rest of the Quora article, but that first sentence is spot on.)
As I said, most of the Red Guards were from rural areas; perhaps their leaders were university students, but the vast bulk of the fighting force was from the countryside.
It was support from the rural people -- 80% of China's population at the time -- that kept the Cultural Revolution going for as long as it did. I notice that you have again ignored Han Dongping's statistics showing how much the farmers benefited from the CR. Hence they supported it.
The Hong Kong people will not support the current rioters for long, if indeed most of them ever did. The more vicious the thugs become, the less support they'll have.
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Jura The idiot
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The Cultural Revolution? 'Maoism in action' was what I'd been taught in a Communistic high school thirty+ years ago, and didn't think about it since then
solarz
Brigadier
Really? Quora is your source? No wonder you have these bizarre misconceptions.
FYI, there were no high schools in villages back then. You needed at least township level for that. Schools had been suspended for a while before the first Red Guard formed. The Red Guards were basically city kids that had nothing else to do.
Look, you're talking to someone whose parents and grandparents lived through the Cultural Revolution. I literally grew up listening to their stories about those times.
Again, the economic improvement during the cultural revolution years were not due to the CR.