Hong-Kong Protests

manqiangrexue

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Seeing this breaks my heart. Why do these people hate being Chinese so much!
Psychologically speaking, powerless losers with identity crises tend to have rebellion fantasies/fetishes. They are angry at their own helplessness and that they cannot control their own fate (such as being considered the richest, most respected of the Chinese people) so they just want to do anything possible to hurt anyone in a "if I'm not happy, nobody can be happy" mentality. And in this world, Hong Kongers have the ability to hurt no one at all except the Chinese patriots who care for Hong Kong and its people. The phenomenon mirrors when teenagers in their prime years of annoyance and identity crisis are most known to say ridiculous things like, "I hate this family! I wish my parents would go to hell and leave me alone! When I'm 18, I'm out and I'm never coming back!!" They can hurt literally no one in the world except their parents and only if they have good parents who love them. And the more the parents try to be nice, to show them love, the more they feel like they've hit a nerve in their rebellion. I don't know about these people but for those teenagers, the turning point is when they get older and face the world, people are cruel to them, they give them nothing for free and make them pay dearly for every mistake. Then they mature and understand the warmth and joy of the family they were raised in. These Hong Kongers feel helpless and just want to rebel... against anything at all, and China is the only thing possible at this point. If the Japanese or even the British took over and ruled Hong Kong, they would change those signs to "Live as a Chinese person, die to be Chinese ghost" because then they would have foreign rule to rebel against. These fragile people have an identity crisis; they have no direction. People want what they lack most, so in this rebellion fantasy, they can finally find a direction to move in, even if it is wrong. To just be Chinese is no direction at all; they just have to keep living their lives aimlessly and the CCP will take care of everything for them though they will be increasingly left back by China's new mega-cities. This way, they don't feel like they took charge of their lives. It's unappealing.

I'm already way beyond the point of tolerance. I would like to send 100,000 Chinese troops in there with Chinese flags and tell everyone, one by one, to bow the to flag, pledge allegiance, and kiss it and if they make 1 mistake, 1 wrong facial expression, if they cough... immediate on the spot execution. LOL

We'll see how the wise CCP handles this.
 
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Gatekeeper

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I can't understand how the teachers gets away doing this. In the UK, I would need permission to take my students out on field trip, and there must be at least two teachers, (one of each sex). Also, I'm not allowed any political or religious radicalisation at all. Its called safeguarding! FB_IMG_1569274143535.jpg

How and why these teachers can radicalised all these young mind with easy!
 

Nutrient

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I don't know where you got the idea that the Cultural Revolution had support from the rural area. It's wrong.

You are mistaken. The Cultural Revolution had overwhelming support from the rural people (80% of the population). Why not? They benefited hugely from it. According to
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by Han Dongping, in just one small county (Jimo County, Yantai Prefecture, Shandong Province), life improved hugely from 1965 to 1976, during the decade of the Cultural Revolution.

Number of primary schools went from 8 in 1965 to 269 in 1976.
Number of students: from 3600 to 52,000.
Grain output: from 136,630 tons to 369,000 tons.
Per capita grain per year: from 230 kg to 421 kg.

There is no indication that Yimo County was at all unusual. The decade of the Cultural Revolution was an enormous boon to rural people. That's why they supported it overwhelmingly.

(I linked to the English translation of the book because this is an English forum.)


The CR lasted 10 years, and would have lasted longer, because it had support from state actors, the Gang of Four. Likewise, so long as the HK riots are supported by foreign states, it will NOT die down on its own. To think otherwise is wishful thinking.

If the Hong Kong people turn against the thugs, the riots will end; foreign support will be irrelevant. Some scuffles may break out occasionally, but if the judges are forced by public opinion to throw the thugs in jail, the serious riots will end.
 

Gatekeeper

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I'm already way beyond the point of tolerance. I would like to send 100,000 Chinese troops in there with Chinese flags and tell everyone, one by one, to bow the to flag, pledge allegiance, and kiss it and if they make 1 mistake, 1 wrong facial expression, if they cough... immediate on the spot execution. LOL

We'll see how the wise CCP handles this.

Wow, Manqiang, I love you man. But really? I know you are upset as so am I. But I thing a cool head is call for.

I think China got a long term goal in mind, and I'm not talking about potential western reactions. I am thinking more of a Taiwan. I am not sure how much of this is true. But I heard somewhere that China offered the one country two system to them. And if so, they probably don't want to risk that by aending troops in!
 

solarz

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You are mistaken. The Cultural Revolution had overwhelming support from the rural people (80% of the population). Why not? They benefited hugely from it. According to
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by Han Dongping, in just one small county (Jimo County, Yantai Prefecture, Shandong Province), life improved hugely from 1965 to 1976, during the decade of the Cultural Revolution.

Number of primary schools went from 8 in 1965 to 269 in 1976.
Number of students: from 3600 to 52,000.
Grain output: from 136,630 tons to 369,000 tons.
Per capita grain per year: from 230 kg to 421 kg.

There is no indication that Yimo County was at all unusual. The decade of the Cultural Revolution was an enormous boon to rural people. That's why they supported it overwhelmingly.

(I linked to the English translation of the book because this is an English forum.)


If the Hong Kong people turn against the thugs, the riots will end; foreign support will be irrelevant. Some scuffles may break out occasionally, but if the judges are forced by public opinion to throw the thugs in jail, the serious riots will end.

You've got a lot of things confused.

First of all, you claimed that the CR continued because it had rural support, which is false. Support or no support, rural areas had zero input on the continuation of the CR. The CR was a political movement started by Mao to purge his political opponents, and was carried on by his wife and the rest of the Gang of Four. When Mao died, Hua Guofeng arrested the Gang of Four and stopped the CR immediately. That alone should tell you that "rural support", even if it had existed, had zero to do with the CR.

Second, just because the Chinese economy continued to improve from 1965 to 1976 doesn't mean the rural areas supported Cultural Revolution. Those are two different things. The CR did not touch rural areas much compared to the urban regions, so villagers were mostly unaffected. Their standards of living were improved by policies that had nothing to do with the CR. The villagers were at most indifferent to the CR.

Saying the CR was continued due to rural support is as accurate as saying the CR built the two bombs and one satellite.
 
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