Hong-Kong Protests

montyp165

Junior Member
Ouch!

This kind of crap is why the organizers of rallies tell people not to speak to the media. I didn't agree with it back in 2008, but now I know better.

The Trotskyists used to say that in terms of foreign policy the US MSM is functionally an arm of the State Department, and that is one point that I've always found to be true. When dealing with the media especially by layfolk, statements and messages must be short and unambiguous such as "the protestors are wrong!" so any possible manipulation is minimized. Lenin and company understood this aspect very well which is why they spent so much effort on effective slogans during the Russian Revolutionary period for example.
 

solarz

Brigadier
The Trotskyists used to say that in terms of foreign policy the US MSM is functionally an arm of the State Department, and that is one point that I've always found to be true. When dealing with the media especially by layfolk, statements and messages must be short and unambiguous such as "the protestors are wrong!" so any possible manipulation is minimized. Lenin and company understood this aspect very well which is why they spent so much effort on effective slogans during the Russian Revolutionary period for example.

Yes. In Toronto, during the latest rally to counter the supporters of the HK riots, the organizers told everyone to say only "We love Hong Kong" when asked by the media.
 

lgnxz

Junior Member
Registered Member
There's this opinionated blog (albeit a bit long) from of a western outsider's perspective with rather uncommon viewpoint titled 'Hong kong and the perils of nativism' which rings true to my perspective as well about the root cause of the ongoing protests; which is how it is being driven by the vintage HK people's perceived social status that put themselves higher than the mainland chinese. However, with the fast growth of china's economy and living standard, that chauvinist sentiment is crumbling quickly due to the said facts, causing them that are not ready to accept it looking like someone that are grasping at straws, finding lesser and lesser excuses to deny the reality just to maintain that vile perception. Worth the read, really. The link:
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1 notable quote from the article:
"When shown that salaries in Shanghai are higher, the food is better, apartments are incomparably bigger and better designed, internet services are an order of magnitude better; Hong Kongers just double down and talk about Human Rights and Internet Freedom not because they actually care; but because that’s all they have left to justify their culturally engrained sense of superiority."
 

KIENCHIN

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Wanton destruction and lawlessness. But you would never see this footage in the western MSM, or our friend from down under ever condemning this!

So these thugs must be feeling really good about themselves, they have done this for the good of HK. My gut feeling is so long they don’t declare independence, Beijing would let them bury themselves in the grave they have dug.
 

Shaolian

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Seems like there is actually going to be local district elections - all 18 districts are up for grabs - coming up on November 24th this year. Would be interesting to see the results. Whether or not Kong Kong deserves the Central Government's intervention may hinge on these elections.

I hope that during the campaigning period, the true patriotic / true pro-Hong Kong parties, their leaders and the peace loving Hong Kong patriots can finally find an avenue or opportunity to make their voices heard, and galvanize a wave of backlash against the terrorists!
 
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Gatekeeper

Brigadier
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Sorry to keep posting all these depressing scenes. But we have to do it just to let people know the protest in Hong Kong is anything but peaceful!

Another day at the office for the thugs! While all these is happening, not a peep from the MSM, or condemnation from our law and order members, nor from any western nations. Also, noticed all those "press" people taking their photos of blood and gor, yet we have not seen any of the photos they have taken surfaced! Ummm!?

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