Hong-Kong Protests

not directly related to the current events, I'm wondering if this is an accurate description:
The Difference Between Cantonese and Mandarin
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now googled this:
Tones
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this is bloody difficult (well I speak only four languages), I'm leaving this topic LOL
 
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Hong Kong protests: skirmishes and fist fights across the city as rival camps clash but day passes without scenes of major violence
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Pro-Beijing supporters wave the Chinese flag during a confrontation in Amoy Plaza. Photo: Sam Tsang
 

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The problem is ignorance and prejudice from a multitude of sources, from personal/family history, high cost of living leading to lack of capacity for exploration and insecurity, tunnel vision parenting, excessive societal focus on wealth/status, poor social skills and insular social groups, to the proliferation of biased and sensationalizing NGOs and media due to external factors, all these play a negative role in misshaping people young and old.

The ignorance and prejudice are problems I am hoping to solve. The internships will expose many young Hong Kongers to the larger world. In the longer run, a strong pro-Beijing media presence will help dispell the Western brainwashing.


Internships for working age people are good but are also a bit too limited too late.

If the internship program is large enough, it won't be too late.


There needs to be more exchange programs with other parts of China for both individual young people and entire classes from Hong Kong, from grade school through university, preferably both as required curriculum/school outings and as optional vacation camps. Within Hong Kong the local authorities need to aggressively address practical problems such as high cost of living, especially real estate, and expand recreation accessibility and options, necessitating taking on a lot of big money special interests and breaking out of the money-trumps-all enslaved mindset of prioritization.

Exchange programs are a good idea.
 

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‘West can’t solve your problems,’ China’s Communist Party tells Hong Kong protesters

Good article, nice find.


“Those who call on people to take to the streets, can they solve the problems of Hong Kong employment, salaries and housing? Have they shown their willingness to solve these problems? What these people have are the empty words of democracy and freedom, they are making the angry angrier and the problems more difficult to solve.”

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“The places ‘helped’ by Western countries to usher in ‘democracy and freedom’ are all in trouble. Western countries can’t even solve their domestic problems ... it is a fantasy to ask them to help people thousands of miles away.”

(Emphasis added.)

Exactly. The Ukrainians were fooled by Western fantasies of "democracy and freedom"; now the Ukraine is poorer than some countries in Africa. And more chaotic.

The Ukraine was democratic before its Maidan revolution, and now it has almost nothing. Hong Kong is democratic now; and if the rioters succeed in forcing a revolution, what will the island have?


“If Hong Kong’s young people want a way out, they should widen their horizons and not lock themselves in the local environment of ‘Hong Kong people’ and the ‘Cantonese-speaking’ circle. They should look north,” it said.

Yes, go north -- on internships.
 

Nutrient

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not directly related to the current events, I'm wondering if this is an accurate description:
The Difference Between Cantonese and Mandarin
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? thank you



now googled this:
Tones
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this is bloody difficult (well I speak only four languages), I'm leaving this topic LOL

Learning Mandarin or Cantonese is not as difficult as you think, if you know one of the dialects already (so the use of tones seems natural to you).

The written language is mostly the same in either case, though the mainland's simplified Chinese is slightly different from the traditional writing.
 
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