Hong-Kong Protests

manqiangrexue

Brigadier
Beijing has nothing to do with HK's gun policies, and considering how cowardly those rioters are, they would never dare accost people who might be armed.

A police force in a society that allows guns is also more trigger happy, so there would be none of that coddling of rioters that's going on right now.
I think Beijing would step in on a national security level if Hong Kong approved guns to all its citizens.

I see your point although I'm not sure if I agree. On the one hand, rioters would have to be much more careful in their riots to not push the police and attacks on elderly or female civilians because anybody could be packing heat, but also, these little punks could start to set up guerrilla shoot n' run ambushes to kill cops if they had guns... They wouldn't dare do a mass shoot-out with an armed opposition but I wouldn't put guerrilla tactics past them.
 

AssassinsMace

Lieutenant General
I haven't been in a scuffle in a while but these violent protestors seem to be a bunch of wimps. The only advantage they have is the numbers and that's questionable from how they can easily be held back by an old man by himself. The guns rights crowd here in the US I've seen comment that if the protestors had guns... And they would be legally shot dead. They believe like these protestors will all of sudden be a bunch of Rambos just because they're on the US's side.
 
It is possible because there are no meaningful opposition media in HK.

In the West, there are always opposition media on domestic matters. During the G7 riots, most mainstream media condemned the rioters. During the Occupy Wallstreet movement, right-wing media continuously derided the Occupy protesters.

Without an opposition voice, the people of HK are exposed to only one side of the story, and media tycoons control the narrative.

The Hong Kong market is too small to support a diverse media industry to begin with, not to mention specifically a diverse journalism industry, this is in addition to the technological evolution challenges to media and journalism that have decimated the news industry around the world.

It is beyond ludicrous that Hong Kong, a sovereign Chinese territory, is inundated with anti-China propaganda. This is why I think Beijing needs to take measures to rein in HK.

It cannot just be about reining in the bad, it has to be about supporting and growing the good which is what is lacking and the more fundamental problem. The Hong Kong authorities, perhaps needing more guidance from the national ones, must break out of its longstanding failure in leadership - vision, planning, communication, and much more vigorous fight against hostile forces.
 
makes me wonder what's next
Hong Kong protests: pro-Beijing and anti-government camps attempt to outsing each other at IFC Mall in Central
  • Bystanders do not mind event and say everyone has right to voice opinion peacefully
  • Anti-government protesters plan to stage more singing rallies across city on Thursday night
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if interested; contains footage of either group singing)
 

Deino

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Mods, please permaban this troll!

Then simply please report such post instead of calling for a ban - which is forbidden - or endlessly continue a stupid discussion.

Sorry to say so, but I cannot read each and every post, and unless you do not report a post, it could be that I miss it.
 

solarz

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Then simply please report such post instead of calling for a ban - which is forbidden - or endlessly continue a stupid discussion.

Sorry to say so, but I cannot read each and every post, and unless you do not report a post, it could be that I miss it.

Deino, I have reported his posts multiple times.

Edit:

Thank you!!
 

Skywatcher

Captain
makes me wonder what's next
Hong Kong protests: pro-Beijing and anti-government camps attempt to outsing each other at IFC Mall in Central
  • Bystanders do not mind event and say everyone has right to voice opinion peacefully
  • Anti-government protesters plan to stage more singing rallies across city on Thursday night
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if interested; contains footage of either group singing)
A bunch of off tune crowds singing probably beats a full fledged riot.
 

AssassinsMace

Lieutenant General
Thinking singing a song is going to do anything... That's romantic movie nonsense. No one else is singing the song. I don't hear it being sung in the US because the vast majority of Americans could care less. I talked to a liberal who knew superficially about what was happening in Hong Kong and he was repeating the same propaganda nonsense. He repeated the police brutality nonsense and I just said US police kill unarmed black men and somehow you're outrage at what's happening in Hong Kong where no one has died? He didn't say anything about Hong Kong after that. It's all about context. People who want to control the narrative, don't like context.

If they want their song heard and sung around the world, they need a pretty person singing it. Here's the catch. They see Asians as an ugly race in general. The protestors pour gasoline on someone people because he spoke Mandarin... Sorry to inform them but it's Cantonese that I hear Americans mistakenly generalize as the Chinese language because it's hard on their ears. I have to laugh at these Hong Kongers who think they can romanticize themselves for American audiences. The irony is all the negative stereotypes of the Chinese are based on them. I brought this up before about the stereotype of the rude Chinese tourist that Hong Kongers like to perpetuate as a characteristic of the Mainland... That came from them and Taiwan since Mainland Chinese tourism is a recent event. I've been hearing those stereotypes decades before. I always hear the anti-Chinese Chinese even in this forum tell Chinese they should be reflective of their behavior in public. Well they apparently have not since these are stereotypes of them. What more says absolute selfishness motivating them when they're schooling other Chinese over public behavior when they're the original sinner. They certainly aren't about changing this behavior if they're not reflective upon themselves. Being a subordinate of their colonial master certainly hasn't made them more civilized since look at all those stereotypes being perpetuated by these protestors themselves. They scream at innocent passersby looking truly ugly and nasty. All those superego Hong Kong protest leaders can't unite because they all have different self-serving agendas that they don't want to share credit with the other like too many chefs in a kitchen... Chinese fire drill. Their journalism is completely biased and full of lies as the West accuses any Chinese newspaper but since this is working for their propaganda so that makes it okay. And in the end are they going to bother with making a distinction? No, that's their power to make Hong Kongers be obedient holding that over them having to continually work at proving it otherwise.

The National Review recently had an article explaining the US wasn't as guilty as history says over slavery. How? Because Africans sold their own people into slavery. That's not the first time I've heard that. Every member of the Alt-Right says it all the time. There goes any notion that they believe in individual human rights. So if someone sells their own kind into slavery, that makes it okay to have them as a slave and the person who bought the slave hasn't committed a crime. I love how they think they're clever spinning their way out of a crime by blaming someone else. Out of the pot into the fryer because if one believes in individual rights like they use as a shield and attacking others in the name of human rights, they would not dare think that it was okay to violate human rights just because someone else sold them into slavery. So what are they complaining about when it comes to Hong Kong when it's Chinese against Chinese where they think that makes it okay to happen like Africans selling Africans into slavery makes it okay? That destroys their argument excusing themselves of enslaving people because all of the sudden your own people committing crimes on their own people is a crime now? And on top of that, they would love for these Hong Kong protestors to be in control of China hence why they've always believed it was Hong Kong that was going to change China. Hong Kongers worship them as gods and it would be perfectly okay if these Hong Kongers forced all Chinese to worship them as gods as well. What about selling Chinese into slavery? It's okay with them.
 
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