Hong-Kong Protests

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duncanidaho

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Nathan Rich gets the point here, there is an Info war on China!

Facts and Truth doesn't count anymore, what counts is the sovereignty over the interpretation.

 
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Tetrach

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manqiangrexue said:
This garbage was never right or understandable and they were riots from the first day they started. Making sure criminals in the PRC have a safe haven in Hong Kong is justified?? Setting up a safe environment for CIA nests and other foreign intelligence against China in China is right? It's understandable? Everything they did from day one wreaked of stupidity, of self-hate, and confusion of who they are.
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The extradition bill is really just the spark of these protests. They were revolting because of all the shenanigans Mainland China has been doing in HK.
 
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Tetrach said:
The extradition bill is really just the spark of these protests. They were revolting because of all the shenanigans Mainland China has been doing in HK.
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Aaah. "Shenanigans".
IF the CPC strived to make a long term plan and take steps for gradual integration of HK into mainland system , seeing that the system was allowed to last till 2047 - "shenanigans" would not be the word any sensible and rational person would choose; "Pragmatic" would be the word.
China has three options.
/ Allow the system to continue indefinitely- thereby fostering more secessionist or seperatist movements.
/ Destroy the 1C-2 system for good and cripple HK to benefit other cities - a rotting cadaver for Shenzen to draw nutrients from.
/ Integrate HK into the league of Tier 1 cities that acts as pockets of Chinese prosperity and realization of the "Chinese dream".
China chose the third one.
Contrary to beliefs - the MANDATE does not lie with the CPC. It does not lie with HK people. It lies with the MAINLANDERS - A loosely huddled mass of Chinese often spat and looked down upon . HK's fate depends upon their decision. Not the Communist Party's. The Party can influence their decision but it does not even need to try. That is precisely why i opinion ed that burning flags, attacking mainlanders or pro-establishment/pro-beijingers , waving flags of foreign nations or getting caught colluding with foreign representatives etc are not going to help.
Have anyone noticed how Mainland publications are not exactly censoring the protests ? Trump's trade war, Huawei's recent impediment , Focus on China as a boogeyman during US elections, scrutiny on Chinese origin (or Chinese national) students and faculty in US and Ally nation universities and tech hubs, constant attack on Chinese as a nation etc are exactly NOT going to help the HK cause - Especially when the Chinese people seems to have seen the light at the end of the tunnel...especially when a lot many of people with nationalist leanings are convinced that the Chinese dream is possible.

Things are going to change big after the Taiwanese elections.
 
Equation

Equation

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Here's the reason for all those HK arrests that started this trouble and it's NOT about the extradition bill. This guy Nathan Rich puts it bluntly in his comical and satire way to illustrate his point.

 
Gatekeeper

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PanAsian said:

It is important to note this clip is from 2017.​

It is also important to note that the headmaster told the students that the school had always flown the Chinese flag, it is non-negotiable, this was done even during the colonial era despite colonial oppression taking away school funding and real estate.
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Still don't take away the guts to stand up to these thugs. Don't forget the troubles started way before 2017!
 
Gatekeeper

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PanAsian said:
They are ignorant of history, this is as much the fault of tunnel-vision-parenting usually focused on making money as it is any supposed failure of the education system. Getting the average person and the culture of the subjugated to grow out of the colonial subject "slave mentality" in a smooth productive practical manner is quite difficult as many other examples around the world have also shown. As with revolutions there is usually some reactionary blowback, this is part of Hong Kongers' growing pains in rejoining the independent Chinese people.
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I'm not sure they are ignorant of history. (I hope they are, but I'afraid they are not)!
When I was growing up in Hong Kong, we have history lessons like any other countries. And history is Chinese. On top of that, my elders taught us about the opium war and the unfair treaties. So we are fully aware why Hong Kong was a British territory, and why we are all British "second class" subjects!

These kids have not lived through that period. I mean 95% is under 22 (Hong Kong returned to the motherland 22 years ago) and the other 3% is under 29. Under 7 years old, too young to know British rule!

As I have mentioned in my previous post. Most of these kids are descended from parents,/grandparents who loathed CCP with every fiber in their body for returns I already mentioned.

Just take a look at the media tycoon Jimmy Lai. He escaped from China during the cultural revolution! And as for Joshua wong, whoes parents are refugees from Vietnam, (where they are bought up detesting everything Chinese)! Plus the Christians churches whos hatred towards CCP is well known because CCP is godless people. And it doesn't help if one of the university in Hong Kong is a baptist university, talk about perfect breeding ground for young radicals!

These peoples' hatred of CCP is so great, it just doesn't matter how much history you teaches them, the hatred will always shines through.
 
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Tetrach said:
Wow this moment when the guy sit down in front of the policeman pointing his pistol at him is quite a dramatic scene.

The protests are really becoming dirty. At the beginning the cause was right and understandable, but now it's just turning as a political revolution. Attacking pro Chinese citizens who did nothing is just disgusting.
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At the begining, it was never right or understandable! You have been watching too much of your news coverage from your armchair where ever you are"
 
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