The handouts are insufficient for small businesses relative to high rents and disruptions from protests, without appropriate accompanying messaging it comes off as an insulting blatant too cheap bribe to much of the silent majority, both those who really need a financial break and those who know the real everyday inequality issues that both the government and the protesters are ignoring.
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The handouts are insufficient for small businesses relative to high rents and disruptions from protests, without appropriate accompanying messaging it comes off as an insulting blatant too cheap bribe to much of the silent majority, both those who really need a financial break and those who know the real everyday inequality issues that both the government and the protesters are ignoring.
All that would make great viewing pleasure for third parties however this is a textbook hearts and minds battle. Both the Hong Kong and China authorities have a lot of room for growth in their PR skills and practice makes perfect. Cyber for sure also is an active battlefield at least in terms of intelligence.
supercat
Major
I agree it's probably a small amount if you look at the per capita number. However, it's better than nothing, especially for poor families. And it's just a beginning. I do not think the HK government wants to exhaust their fiscal reserves at once without any feedback. They will probably release stimulus packages in several batches, observe the performance of the released funds, and direct subsequent ones to the most critical areas. The key is to prevent recession, where the total amount of stimulus packages and where they are applied are probably as important as the per capita handout.
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AssassinsMace
Lieutenant General
Beijing should just sit back and wait even it lasts month after month. It's either going to die out or get more violent to which something is going to happen and get ugly. Let these protestors look bad on their own. They're preventing people from going to work and make a living. They'll be making the foreigners they worship as gods leave Hong Kong. The truth is the more self-inflicted damage to Hong Kong the better because if it dies out, the next one is not going be as powerful because they'll know what is going to happen because of the last time. Does anyone think the British or the US are going to send troops like these Hong Kongers seem to think would happen. When they don't, these Hong Kongers will realize their gods don't love them as much as they say and Beijing should taunt it.
AssassinsMace
Lieutenant General
This is how it turns against the protestors.
I was watching CNN and they had a report on how the Mainland media is one sided on their coverage of what's happening in Hong Kong. LOL!!! You mean contradicting how many are claiming Beijing is completely hiding what's happening in Hong Kong? Like the US media isn't supporting the protestors? Even when the protestors are committing violence, they make excuses for them. They're so protective of "journalists" around the world yet they were silent when a Global Times reporter was savagely beaten by protestors. So who's the one hiding what's going on in Hong Kong?
I was watching CNN and they had a report on how the Mainland media is one sided on their coverage of what's happening in Hong Kong. LOL!!! You mean contradicting how many are claiming Beijing is completely hiding what's happening in Hong Kong? Like the US media isn't supporting the protestors? Even when the protestors are committing violence, they make excuses for them. They're so protective of "journalists" around the world yet they were silent when a Global Times reporter was savagely beaten by protestors. So who's the one hiding what's going on in Hong Kong?
Not sure how reliable is it, but the para-military has arrived in Hong Kong. I'll try post footage if I can
I hope i done it properly.
I guess the "protestors" rioters got what they wanted in the end, in more ways than one.
It is little wonder why all those leaders of the "protest" riots fled during the past few days. One of them, little wong, even got beaten up when he arrived in Taiwan. I bet he didn't expected that sort of greeting from his "friends" in Taiwan! Lol
broadsword
Brigadier
What was the reason for the beating?
It's true that handouts by the HK government doesn't have to be limited to this round or these methods. However in this instance the social service aspect of stimulus is as important as its technical economic aspect, if the stimulus doesn't alleviate the hardship of enough of the affected population then it is ineffective on that front. Economic malaise have reached the point where it fuels political discontent among the silent majority, and it is not a good thing when both the powerful and the loud don't address it as it will get worse. Both in the context of HK's evolution and the bigger picture of great power competition whoever runs a tighter ship will waste less momentum, strengthening the weakest link will help move forward the cutting edge.
This is true and may be convenient in some ways however it is bound to be a Pyrrhic victory as China will have a ruined HK with a much larger number of dispossessed people of little use to China who will then be disgruntled for valid non-political reasons.
Not sure exactly, but my opion is the opposition nationalist KMT, don't forget they too, are against Hong Kong independence movement. Much against western MSM BS, narratives of how Taiwan's view of the whole greater China geopolitic!