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manqiangrexue

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Hendrik_2000 said:
Yup those young brat better stop this madness or something bad about to happen
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Chinese military vehicles stashed across Hong Kong border in soccer stadium, satellite images appear to show

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They're so respectful! They're on hair-trigger notice to conduct what is likely to be a mission with impact to advance national unity, a patriotic service that generations of soldiers all over the world will never have the honor of being summoned for, and they're still careful not to mess up the grass in the soccer stadium while using it! LOL
 
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Pika

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I think we should make a thread for the Hong-Kong Protest especially if PAP intervenes. I just don't know under which Forum.
 
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PanAsian

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manqiangrexue said:
I was discussing this with my girlfriend who is from Hong Kong and in Hong Kong now and she says it's obvious why the PLA have not stepped in yet. The riots are not at all what the Western media has portrayed. As a matter of fact, I was shocked to hear these things from her. First of all, there are many children, barely in their teens, who don't really know why they are there. I've never seen that in the Western media. Then, she says a lot of the ranks of these rioters are made of low level mercenaries being paid to riot. And fractures are starting to show because they are not getting paid as they were promised and rioters are starting to get angry in their internal ranks. As a matter of fact, the Chinese government is moving to further cut off their funding sources. She says it's obvious to her and the majority of the people in Hong Kong that foreigners have teamed up with traitors to foment this unrest and that the majority of rioters are just confused Chinese people being roped into it. That's why it's clear that for now, this situation requires a more tactical and softer touch rather than one of military power. I did not know any of that. By reading the Western news, I was led to believe that Hong Kong was made in large of die-hard traitors for whom there is no hope left...
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Why would you rely on Western news for obviously political happenings involving China?
 
supercat

supercat

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I think the HK government made a very smart move today. They just announced a multi-billion economic stimulus package, which will prevent recession, and also "includes tax cuts, extra social security payments and school subsidies. The government will also waive some fees for small and medium sized businesses, reduce rents at state owned facilities and create public works projects."

Hong Kong spends billions to avert recession as protests hit the economy

The government announced a stimulus package worth about 19 billion Hong Kong dollars ($2.4 billion) Thursday to help safeguard jobs and provide relief to "people's financial burden."

Hong Kong's economy
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, the weakest rate in a decade. Compared with the first quarter of 2019, GDP shrank by 0.3%. A contraction in the July-September quarter would tip the city of about 7 million people into recession.

Mass pro-democracy protests have been taking place for 10 straight weeks, disrupting business, forcing the cancellation this week of nearly 1,000 flights, and scaring investors in Asia's premier financial hub.

Financial Secretary Paul Chan told reporters that Hong Kong's faltering economy — already suffering from
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and the trade war — had received a further blow from "recent social incidents." The government slashed its forecast for economic growth in 2019 to between 0% and 1%.

"The Hong Kong economy faced significant downward pressure in the second quarter. The situation has turned even more austere in recent months," the Hong Kong government said in a statement.

It said the protests had affected
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and damaged the retail trade, restaurants and tourism, piling pressure on an economy already feeling the impact of escalating trade tensions, geopolitical risks and heightened market uncertainty.

The stimulus package includes tax cuts, extra social security payments and school subsidies. The government will also waive some fees for small and medium sized businesses, reduce rents at state owned facilities and create public works projects.

"Together with one-off relief measures announced in the 2019-20 budget ... they will provide impetus for our economy and help cushion the enterprises and people of Hong Kong against challenges arising from economic uncertainties," Chan said.

The city is home to seven Fortune Global 500 companies such as Lenovo (
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The cost of the tumult is already showing up in the earnings of a growing number of big companies. Disney (
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mr.bean

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i just wish the HKPD would show these brats real police brutality LAPD style but HK don't have the stomach for this. so maybe take it down a notch, nobody should be carrying guns but all pepper spray, tasers, batons and tear gas and just beat the living shit out of these black shirt thug wannabees. HK cops please pull a Rodney King incident at the HK International Airport.
 
plawolf

plawolf

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There is no need for such provocative and ugly looking scenes.

What HK police need are some of the more interesting anti-riot gear we have been seeing at Chinese police exhibits for years.

These protests seems like the perfect use for the sonic and microwave crowd dispersion kit Chinese manufacturers have been advertising.

Set the microwaves emitters to shoot a foot and a half above the ground, and put a sign saying ‘get on the ground if you want the pain to stop’ and then arrest the lot.

HK police should also get some of those laser rifles from the Chinese. If a protest shoots lasers at the eyes of policemen, they can get a taste of their own medicine right back at them.

Shotgun taser rounds should also be deployed en mass; and they can also use drone crop dusters to spray the ID dyes used in bank note ink bombs so that even if some protestors get away, they would be easy to spot and arrest later.

If mainland PAP do get involved, it won’t be another Tiananmen like western commentators are all but explicitly hoping for; but rather they would come in with crowd control non-lethal weapons, like the ones mentioned above and much more; but more importantly, they would come in with sufficiently numbers to corner and nab every single protestor.

If the PAP does come in, I would expect the extradition bill to get rammed through and made law, and all the arrested protestors will get sent straight to mainland prisons; where I am sure their fellow inmates will make them feel extremely welcome.

Back in 89, China had no effective non-lethal crowd control and dispersal equipment and tactics, today I would say Chinese mainland police are one of, if not the best equipped and trained forces in the world to effectively deal with massed protests in non-lethal means.

Ironically, in this day and age, a Tiananmen style event is far more likely in America, where the police is equipped and trained like an occupational army rather than law enforcement.

But as always, the western MSM only reports on dated stereotypes and semi-racist political slogans instead of up to date facts.
 
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