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Anlsvrthng

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Again, you mixing up the missile /system operation in air interceptor, and ballistic missile mode.

in ballistic missile you launch it with 45 degree, and with 2km/sec burnout speed the range will be sufficient to reach the USA military bases.

In air interceptor mode the range restricted by the warhead sensitivity, radar , data link , missile kinematics and so on AND it is not the optimal 45 degree , to reach the full range.

The two range has no direct relationship.

Ballistic missile needs only the coordinates of target only.

You arguing about that the Russians ( Iranians) deliberate restricting the capability of the system, by NOT allowing simple operations. It is like saying that a cast iron base of a microscope can not be used as a hammer if no other tool available.
 
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China Curiously Says It May Join U.S. Persian Gulf Maritime Coalition Despite Trade War
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China has said that its navy could escort Chinese-flagged commercial vessels in the Persian Gulf, Gulf of Oman, and the Strait of Hormuz, in response to
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in the wake of Iran's seizure of
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in recent the past month. In addition, Chinese officials are considering joining a new U.S.-backed maritime security framework in the region, despite serious tensions between the two countries at present, including a massive trade war. This news comes as the U.S. government has reportedly sought to take a more secondary role in that operation,
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a leading role, in a push to "internationalize" the effort and attract foreign partners.

Chinese Ambassador to the United Arab Emirates Ni Jian
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of his country's positions on regional maritime security in Abu Dhabi on Aug. 6, 2019. China's embassy in the country subsequently provided additional details to the wire service via text message.

"If there happens to be a very unsafe situation we will consider having our navy escort our commercial vessels," Ni
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. "We have the position that all disputes should be sorted by peaceful means and by political discussions, not ... military actions." "We are studying the U.S. proposal on Gulf escort arrangements," the Chinese Embassy in the UAE added.
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TerraN_EmpirE

TerraN_EmpirE

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Anlsvrthng said:
Again, you mixing up the missile /system operation in air interceptor, and ballistic missile mode.

in ballistic missile you launch it with 45 degree, and with 2km/sec burnout speed the range will be sufficient to reach the USA military bases.
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Why bother?
In air interceptor mode the range restricted by the warhead sensitivity, radar , data link , missile kinematics and so on AND it is not the optimal 45 degree , to reach the full range.

The two range has no direct relationship.

Ballistic missile needs only the coordinates of target only.
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again why bother?
S300 is an air defense system if you do that you are wasting the missiles for what point? Maybe minor damage?
And what happens after that you have a gap in IAD, you have just openly started a shooting war with a global super power, France and the UEA and regional states. And top is all off other US assets will fill that gap quickly as well as undamaged aircraft from those fields. As many of there hangers are hardened.
You arguing about that the Russians ( Iranians) deliberate restricting the capability of the system, by NOT allowing simple operations.
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You are advocating using the system in the absolutely stupidest manor available. You are basically trying to defend your post that as based on faulty logic and assertions that have been proven as such. By attempting to push a stratagem based on incompetent use of an air defense platform.
It is like saying that a cast iron base of a microscope can not be used as a hammer if no other tool available.
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So instead of buying a $20 Hammer you break the lenses of a $800 Microscope?
 
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Anlsvrthng

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TerraN_EmpirE said:
So instead of buying a $20 Hammer you break the lenses of a $800 Microscope?
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Ok, I think the root of the discrepancy is you didn't read the start of my first sentence, "even the S-300 missile can".

Iran has way better and cheaper missiles for this job, with longer range, so I don't think they will wast an expensive S-300 missile to attack a ground target .


It would be like using a microscope as a hammer.

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Jura The idiot

Jura The idiot

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not sure what kind of 'wagging the dog' by the UK it is to detain that Iranian tanker;

LOL pulled at the time of no deal Brexit approaching,

at the time when the RN is unable to even man two of its major surface combatants (I guess the official for HMS Monmouth and Daring would be quote unquote refit),

and I'd rather not to comment on funds for the RN modernization,

and so on

anyway what Iran showed to the UK was

If You Look For Trouble, You Will Find It
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Gibraltar Supreme Court says Iranian tanker is free to sail
Ruling to release vessel that was commandeered by UK came despite last-minute US attempt to detain it.

an hour ago
 
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Even with a warrnat, unless the US is able to bring another case in the Gibraltar courts and get a temporary injunction, it looks like the tanker will sail as soon as a new crew has arrived.

Interestingly it's also reported that Iran has promised the tanker won't deliver oil to Syria. That was a solution to the problem touted a month or so ago when it was first detained.
 
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Even with a warrnat, unless the US is able to bring another case in the Gibraltar courts and get a temporary injunction, it looks like the tanker will sail as soon as a new crew has arrived.

Interestingly it's also reported that Iran has promised the tanker won't deliver oil to Syria. That was a solution to the problem touted a month or so ago when it was first detained.
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Refer to this post:
https://www.sinodefenceforum.com/iranian-military-news-reports-data-etc.t7907/page-31#post-563470

Basically, Iran had stated prior that the Grace 1 was not headed to Syria, then Britain continued to hold the ship for unspecified reasons. That was when Iran captured Stena Imperio. Now the British release Grace 1. Interestingly, and comically, the UK adamantly says that the 2 issues are separate and it's not a trade. I guess that means Iran has no reason to release Stena then... but being good-willed and having taught the UK a lesson, the Iranians might. The take-way point is that the UK now knows there are consequences to pirating ships and won't likely be a re-offender on that for a while.
 
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