ARM cuts ties with Huawei, threatening future chip designs

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nugroho

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in case you didn't know
Huawei Personnel Worked With China’s Military on Research Projects



    • Huawei says research was not authorized by the company
    • Employees collaborated on AI and communications with military
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eisenhower once was usa' president , then us goverment is a junta-military, get the logic???
 

manqiangrexue

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Last I checked a week ago, Huawei led Nokia on 5G contracts 46 to 42. Today when I checked, Huawei had opened the lead to 50 to 42. Two thirds of all NON-CHINESE 5G networks in the world use Huawei equipment. And lastly, Nokia CTO Mark Weldon criticized Huawei for "security flaws" and gets thrown out in the rain by his own company in 24 hours.

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Huawei is still signing up 5G customers despite US pressure
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Shanghai (CNN Business)Wireless carriers are still lining up to buy 5G network technology from Huawei despite
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that have threatened the Chinese tech company's global supply chain.

Huawei said Wednesday that it has signed more commercial 5G contracts than any other
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"Globally we already have 50 ... commercial 5G contracts," Huawei deputy chairman and rotating CEO Ken Hu said during a presentation at the Mobile World Congress in Shanghai. That's an increase of 10 since the end of March.

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that it had secured 42 commercial 5G contracts, meaning it has signed 12 new deals in the last three months, compared to 10 for Huawei.

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Huawei says two-thirds of 5G networks outside China now use its gear
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As 5G networks begin rolling out and commercializing around the world, telecoms vendors are rushing to get a headstart. Huawei equipment is now behind two-thirds of the commercially launched 5G networks outside China, said president of Huawei’s carrier business group Ryan Ding on Tuesday at an industry conference.

Huawei, the world’s largest maker of telecoms gear, has nabbed 50 commercial 5G contracts outside its home base from countries including South Korea, Switzerland, the United Kingdom, Finland and more. In all, the Shenzhen-based firm has shipped more than 150,000 base stations, according to Ding.

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Nokia Hurriedly Disowns Its CTO's Scathing Comments On Huawei Security Flaws
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made a day earlier to the BBC by their CTO Marcus Weldon—comments that related to the alleged security issues with equipment from rival Huawei. Nokia has been careful in its public statements about Huawei's difficulties. And this has clearly not changed, at least not officially.

In light of a scathing Huawei
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from researchers at U.S.-based Finite State, Weldon had suggested that Huawei equipment was far more likely to have vulnerabilities than technology from Nokia or Ericsson. "We read those reports and we think okay, we're doing a much better job than they are," Weldon said, describing Huawei's failings as serious and claiming Nokia's alternatives to be a safer bet. "Some of it seems to be just sloppiness, honestly, that they haven't patched things, they haven't upgraded. But some of it is real obfuscation, where they make it look like they have the secure version when they don't."

In a hurried
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, Nokia disowned what was said to the BBC: "Nokia notes the comments made by a Nokia executive to the BBC on 27 June 2019 regarding the possible impact of the use of a competitor’s products on the security of U.K. telecom networks. These comments do not reflect the official position of Nokia. Nokia is focused on the integrity of its own products and services and does not have its own assessment of any potential vulnerabilities associated with its competitors."
 

weig2000

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CNN is making a case for Trump to include Huawei in a trade deal with China, it appears. Less than two months after Huawei was put on the Entity List by the Trump administration, the winds have already started to blow in the other direction?

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Updated 7:59 PM ET, Fri June 28, 2019

New York (CNN Business)Huawei is a major, multinational company that does business with some of the most important technology and telecom businesses in the world. It's also a
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, the next generation of wireless networking.

That kind of clout is going to make it really hard for the United States to stop Huawei's momentum.

It's not that the White House hasn't been trying. Last month,
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from the Chinese tech company — a source that Washington has long considered a risk to national security. And the US government is also banning Huawei from buying US goods without a license. Huawei denies that it poses a security risk.

As President Donald Trump and China's Xi Jinping prepare to meet this weekend at the G20 summit in Japan, the United States has to consider whether it's worth including Huawei in any deal between the two economic superpowers, especially if government officials think the tech firm could harm national security interests.

But Huawei also might just be too influential for the
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coming from the Trump administration to work.
"This is a $110 billion company that is really too big, in some sense, to be killed in this manner because it's too tightly intertwined with the supply chain and with standards and with critical infrastructure globally," said Paul Triolo, global technology policy director at Eurasia Group.

5G and wireless infrastructure

Huawei is the world's largest telecom equipment provider and it has invested $2 billion to research and develop 5G products. It also
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50 commercial contracts spanning 30 different countries for 5G technology.

The American government wants to push Huawei out of that coveted position because it fears the company's gear could be used by Chinese intelligence services to spy on other countries, a claim Huawei has denied. The United States has also been urging its allies to take similar actions to curb Huawei's ambitions.

But it wouldn't be easy for companies that already use Huawei to just switch to another equipment provider.

Huawei's equipment already forms the infrastructure for the 4G networks of many major wireless carriers in Europe and other parts of the world, which will make the transition to 5G faster and cheaper. In Europe alone, the inability to use Huawei equipment
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and delay the deployment of 5G by about 18 months, according to estimates from the mobile operator lobbying group GSMA.

Huawei's absence in Europe and other developed markets would leave a huge gap in the market. That might not be one Huawei's competitors would be able to scale up quickly enough to fill, said Triolo, the Eurasia Group expert.

"If they suddenly can't count on Huawei to be there, they have to consider basically ripping out all of their base stations," he said. "You have to figure out the replacement costs, and the price increase because the other competitors are more expensive."
The worst case scenario "is that we never get to 5G because of the cost," Triolo said.

In the United States, Huawei's equipment serves only a small percentage of networks. But those customers — small, federally subsidized wireless networks — have relied on the fact that the gear is up to 40% cheaper than other companies' equipment, according to the Rural Wireless Association, a trade group for small carriers.
Switching Huawei equipment out in those markets could cost $1 billion, according to
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from that group. Huawei's US Vice President of Sales William Levy sits on the RWA board of directors.

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left those rural American carriers scrambling for new options, though they've been granted a
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from the policy.
Other companies, like competitor Nokia,
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as a supplier in America and elsewhere. But Nokia, which is smaller than Huawei, also acknowledged there are challenges.

"Uncertainty in general is not good for business," said Tommi Uitto, president of mobile networks at the Finnish company, referring to the political situation surrounding Chinese suppliers. "Some of our customers may be delaying their decisions. If you have an operator who has Nokia and a Chinese supplier, then this current situation may delay their own decision-making."

Harm to American companies

While Trump considers a trade deal, he may also need to take into account that American companies rely on Huawei as a customer.

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$11 billion in American goods in 2018, such as chips from Intel (
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), and software from Google (
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).

Before the export ban, Huawei was Micron's number one customer, and comprised 13% of its revenue in the first half of fiscal 2019. The restrictions have dragged down Micron's earnings, that company said when it reported
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this week.

"It had an impact because we could not ship at that time any product to them of nearly $200 million," Micron CEO Sanjay Mehrotra told analysts on an earnings call.

Micron has found ways to still do business with Huawei. The company said it has been able to restart shipments of some products that are not covered by the export restrictions.

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reported this week that Intel has also resumed sales to Huawei after finding a legal way to keep products from being labeled "American-made." Intel declined to comment to CNN Business about that report.

American chip companies want to retain Huawei as a customer because if they don't, they fear they'll lose out to foreign suppliers who can continue working with the Chinese giant. US companies may also worry that other foreign customers could see them as unreliable because of their inability to sell to Huawei.

"Any Chinese company designing complicated circuitry based on US technology has to rethink its strategic plan out the next five-to-10 years," Triolo said. He added that could mean that Chinese firms stop using American chips in their designs.
 
sorry for just the headline as I'll try find details now (I thought they'd maybe eat a lunch together, but that would it be)
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Google will lose up to 800 million users if Huawei ditches Android – Huawei CEO

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There are 800 million smartphone users just in China.

Call it 1 year to develop Ark OS and to sort out open source licensing and involvement with other hardware and software companies.

Then a 2 year replacement cycle for smartphones.

That forces the creation of an entire software and app ecosystem.

Then add some export sales outside of China. That means Ark OS could be bigger than Google Android on a global scale
 
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China would welcome the US decision to continue sales of products to
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, said a Chinese foreign ministry official to
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, after US President Donald Trump reportedly announced to allow the sales of US products to the Chinese company
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now noticed
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Trump says Huawei issue will be saved for end of US-China trade talks
US President Donald Trump said Friday he would save the issue of Huawei for the end of US-China trade talks.

“We mentioned Huawei,” Trump said of his talks with President Xi Jinping of China earlier Saturday. “We’ll have to save that for the very end.”

He said he “agreed easily” in his meeting with Xi to continue allowing US companies to do business with the telecom giant.
The announcement appears to contradict previous assessments by US government officials that Huawei poses a spying risk to Western infrastructure networks.

Trump called the matter “very complex” and “highly scientific,” but said the matter of Meng Wanzhou, the Huawei executive who was arrested in Canada, didn’t come up.
 
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