How China Could Replace all US Technology

vesicles said:

If you look at how the events are developing now, you will see that things are not working in the way you are imagining. The US is holding monopolies of many technologies. However, many American companies are voicing their displeasure for punishing the Chinese companies and the tariffs because of the Chinese manufacturing abilities, not their technologies. And this is happening across a wide spectrum of tech levels, from super computers to apparels. Even with such sizable monopolies, the US is now under tremendous pressure and influence from the Chinese.

As you can see, holding a technological monopoly is not making things easier for the American companies. And it is not making it easier for the US government to achieve their goals either.

I am in no way advocating that China should depend on foreign techs for everything. China should develop their own technologies as hard as they can and a healthy competition between American and Chinese companies will advance the technologies in every field. However, the mentality of becoming independent of foreign techs is very dangerous. It IS isolationism in every sense of the word.

Even when the Chinese do eventually achieve their complete technological independence, what will prevent them from experiencing the same difficulties and “unfair” influences that the American companies are experiencing now against China? This is not the way to go.

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All empires rise and fall. When a civilization gets to the top spot, it gets complacent and starts to decline. It is an inevitable cycle of history.

Maybe in 100-200 years, China will be experiencing the same decline, just as it has so many times before in its history, but that's not for us to worry about.

For now, it's sufficient that China has an imperative to pursue technological self-sufficiency.

vesicles said:

During a negotiation, each side will hold certain advantages. You cannot expect to eliminate all of them.

What if you are negotiating with another nation with a huge market? They will use their market as a strength in the negotiation. How will you eliminate that? Increase your population to become an even bigger market? You don’t expect to eliminate every strength of your opponent in a negotiation. You counter with your own strength.

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That's exactly what the pursuit of self-reliance is, a counter to the Americans wielding their monopoly as leverage.

You see, Trump is not a rational negotiator when it comes to the American nation. He doesn't care how much damage he will inflict on the American economy, so you cannot trade economic concessions with him. Trump is only interested in making himself look good, and the American public is his enabler.

vesicles said:

Again, please keep in mind that this whole discussion is about whether it’s possible and/or how to be free of foreign influences. My view is that, at this day and age, even if you own 100% of your own tech, you cannot be free of foreign influences. In this globalized world, some aspect of doing business will involve foreign elements, thus subject to foreign influences. Either technology development, manufacturing, sales, etc. will involve foreign influences. So why fight it? Embrace it and use it to your advantage! Use the influence to form alliances with partners with common interests.

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No, it's not. The discussion is on how China can replace US technology, not be free of all foreign influences. If you trade, you cannot be free of them but how much can they influence you? That is the key and leads into the following:

vesicles said:

During a negotiation, each side will hold certain advantages. You cannot expect to eliminate all of them.

What if you are negotiating with another nation with a huge market? They will use their market as a strength in the negotiation. How will you eliminate that? Increase your population to become an even bigger market? You don’t expect to eliminate every strength of your opponent in a negotiation. You counter with your own strength.

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First of all, we cannot eliminate ALL advantages, but we must do our best to cut off as many adversary advantages as we can and cultivate as many advantages as possible. Also, what is an advantage? If your rival controls all of your key technology and can bring down your economy at only a monetary cost to his, that is an advantage. Another kind of advantage is that this rival country produces the most delicious candy, steak, and beer in the world and without their imports, your citizens will miss out on these joys of life. Or this country buys 35% of all your leather shoe exports and without their patronage, your she-cobblers would feel such a pinch. The former is a huge advantage that you must seek to supplant while the latter ones are something you can definitely live with and shouldn't waste your efforts challenging. The key is to place all your strengths at powerful choking points and leave all the annoyance-level "strengths" to your opponent. One should never be complacent leaving any choke-point strengths for your opponent to negotiate against you with.

and in the meantime
Donald Trump prepared to impose lower tariffs if China talks fail

• US president says additional duties could start at 10 per cent instead of 25 per cent
• Trump has already imposed 25 per cent tariffs on US$250 billion worth of Chinese goods, and has threatened to tax an additional US$325 billion in imports

Published: 1:23am, 27 Jun, 2019

US President Donald Trump said on Wednesday he was prepared to impose additional tariffs on China if talks this week do not end in progress, but suggested additional duties could start at a lower amount of 10 per cent.

Trump has already imposed 25 per cent tariffs on US$250 billion worth of Chinese goods and has been preparing to levy duties on the remaining US$325 billion of goods the US imports from the country.

In an interview with Maria Bartiromo on Fox Business News on Wednesday morning, the president said he might begin with a 10 per cent duty, if his meeting with Chinese President Xi Jinping at the G20 summit does not end well.

“Phase 2 doesn’t have to be 25 per cent. It could be 10 per cent, which people can absolutely handle,” Trump said.

He also repeated his assertion that American consumers would not pay higher prices because of the duties – a contention that has been debunked by US retailers and importers who purchase the goods and are forced to absorb the tariff mark-up.

Over the past week and a half,

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testified in Washington before officials at the Office of the US Trade Representative, mostly to plead against the imposition of additional tariffs.

Trump said China has devalued its currency to make its exported goods cheaper, so consumers are not facing higher costs. “We’re not paying anything for it,” he said. “I view tariffs differently than a lot of other people.”

The president is expected to leave on Wednesday for Osaka, Japan, for the Group of 20 Leaders Summit, which brings together the world’s largest economies. Trump administration officials are negotiating with Chinese officials before the expected Trump-Xi meeting on Saturday.

It is widely expected the two leaders will announce that the two countries will hold off on further tariffs or other forms of retaliation while they continue talks to end trade tensions.

“We’ve had conversations over the last few days. They are negotiating,” Trump said, adding that he is content if the talks result in a truce or if they produce more tariffs.

“My attitude is I’m happy either way,” he said. “My plan B is maybe my plan A. My plan B is that if we don't make a deal, I will tariff – and maybe not at 25 per cent but maybe at 10 per cent.”

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@vesicles

What is the end goal for China?

It's not to be free of all foreign influences as you think.

China is already the largest trading nation.
And let's say China grows its own hi-tech companies that want to go global
And it becomes the largest economy by far.

So it makes no sense for China to close itself to foreign influence, as it will derive the most benefit from a liberal trade and investment order with the rest of the world.

But China does need to ensure that it isn't subject to US blackmail, due to a critical reliance on a US tech monopoly.
(The rest of the world just doesn't have that sort of leverage against China, nor reason to use it, so they aren't an issue)

And the Chinese market is definitely big enough to support and grow a leading-edge competitor (whether in China or Europe or Japan) to every such US monopoly.

solarz said:

The real issue here is that the Americans have a quasi-monopoly on certain technologies, and they are now using it for negotiation leverage.

The counter to a monopoly is diversification, but in the absence of any viable suppliers in non-US countries (or countries that are not subject to US political influence), China's only alternative is to be self-reliant.

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China needs to have companies in each critical sector. Each company does not need to be the 1st in its sector, it can be 2nd or 3rd. Also, China should learn from Japan and Europe. Japanese companies were stiffed with sanctions in the 1980/90s. The Chinese state needs to provide demand to Chinese producers to counter that in critical sectors and use tariffs if necessary. European companies have often been the target of acquisitions by larger US companies (sometimes hostile) which basically kills European tech champions in the crib. Just look at Skype or Alstom as examples. There are loads more. China needs to enforce serious anti-monopoly and anti-cartel legislation to prevent excessive concentration. We already saw China act to prevent the merger of Qualcomm and NXP. Imagine they had indeed merged. European NXP chips would now be part of US Qualcomm and susceptible to US sanctions.

@Hendrik_2000:
Dr. Kewei Yang has a quite impressive resume. This is the kind of person suitable not only to lead a mixed signal chip team, but also to lead a Chinese GPU design team if necessary. I remember the Rendition Verite chips (I am assuming those are what he worked on). It was one of the best GPUs of the era, the only fault it had was lack of software support because it used a proprietary API. Later Micron bought Rendition's technology, basically sat on it, and let it rot away.

With regards to the Anlogic FPGA company I hope they are fabbing at least some of the FPGAs in China. This is a product which could make SMIC or some other major foundry business to expand as FPGA take up a lot of capacity. They seem to have the right focus as a large part of the effort in making a good FPGA are the software tools which come with it. So it is good to see that in the press release.

Now come the RF chips slowly China is replacing US source chip skywork and qorvo for her high tech industry via xyz
I guess this company is specializing in transmitter base RF chips and other application including mobile RF an IofT

Kangxi Communications debuted at MWC and unveiled a new RF front-end series of chips , the world's leading GaAs/CMOS high-linear RF chip design technology
康希通信亮相MWC，发布全新射频前端系列芯片——全球领先的GaAs/ CMOS 高线性射频芯片设计技术


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Shanghai, China (June 26, 2019) - With the opening of 2019#MWC Shanghai, the first appearance of MWC's leading supplier of RF chips in China, Kangxi Communication Technology (Shanghai) Co., Ltd. (hereinafter referred to as "Kangxi Communication") announced that it will be released. The new 5G micro base station (sub 6GHz) RF power amplifier / front-end chip series, the new generation of WIFI6 fully integrated RF front-end chip and other upgrade products, to help the terminal have more excellent RF performance.

Kangxi Communication has a full set of RF chip design technologies such as GaAs, SOI and CMOS. It focuses on R&D of WIFI, 5G, IoT and other RF front-end ICs, mainly used in wireless access WIFI, mobile WIFI, 5G and Internet of Things. The team has been working on the design and development of high-linearity RF front-end chips, with the industry's rare high-linearity pure CMOS RF front-end technology, and the ground-breaking DeltaRF architecture to design high-performance WLAN/5G micro-base station RF front-end chips.

Zhao Xi, chief technology officer of Conch Communications, said: "The challenge of contemporary high-linearity RF front-end chips lies in the near-extreme linearity requirements of the RF front-end module FEM, the zero-tolerance DEVM noise floor, and any minor factors in the practical application of the DEVM. Impact". As the leading R&D team in Asia, Kangxi Communication has successfully overcome the technical difficulties and developed WIFI FEM products with performance comparable to the US.

In the 5G era, higher requirements were placed on the RF front-end chip. More than 90% of the global RF power amplifier market share is occupied by the two giants Skyworks and Qorvo. With the official test of China's first 5G NR RF front-end chip produced by Kangxi Communication, it means that China will join the international market with strong RF front-end chip competitiveness, changing the pattern of US business.

For the application and development trend of 5GNR and WIFI6 RF front-end chips, Qiang Qiang, vice president of application engineering of Kangxi Communication Market, proposed that the 5G era network topology structure consisting of 5G macro base station + 5G micro base station + WIFI requires high performance and high reliability. A low-cost RF front-end chip solution enables seamless network operation to support tens of billions of wireless devices. Conchi Communications can provide a complete portfolio of WLAN/5GNR products."

Luo Jian, general manager of the Digital Products Department of China Mobile Internet of Things Co., Ltd., attended the launch conference of Kangxi Communication 2019 as a guest, and delivered a keynote speech entitled "Working together and entering the new era of all things." The two parties signed a strategic cooperation agreement at the press conference, announcing that they will jointly build a new ecosystem of industrial cooperation, and carry out in-depth cooperation in WIFI, intelligent hardware and connectivity, 5G and other fields to jointly promote the wide application of products related to the Internet of Things industry chain.

Dr. Peng Ping, General Manager of Kangxi Communications, said: "Kangxi Communication currently has the world's leading GaAs/CMOS high-linearity RF chip design technology, which not only proves the strength of our team's research and development, but more importantly reflects the domestic RF chip in wireless applications. International competitiveness."

At the press conference, the 5GNR micro base station RF power amplifier chip released by Kangxi Communication -- KCT56228H is one of the focuses. Compared with the traditional micro base station RF power amplifier, the KCT56228H adopts the new DeltaRF architecture, which can effectively reduce the cost of the RF power amplifier chip. This product is also one of the core products in the cooperation strategy between Kangxi Communication and China Mobile IoT, and is highly favored by customers.

It is worth mentioning that the new products included in the debut include the WIFI6 RF front-end chip – KCT8539S/KCT8239S, which uses the unique reliability design method of Kangxi Communications to achieve the industry's leading reliability inspection standards, respectively The 5GHz/2.4GHz RF front-end chip that implements the WIFI6 protocol standard firstly leads the upgrade of the RF front-end China "core".

At present, Kangxi Communication has a complete layout and planning of WLAN products and 5G products. Through continuous development and optimization, it provides customers with high-performance, small-package, high-efficiency, low-cost 5G RF chip solutions. In the future, with the development of smart homes, smart offices, smart utilities and use cases, Kangxi Communication will continue to improve the product layout of the Internet of Things market, and the winds of “Wanwang Internet” will be on the rise.

Kangxi Communication Technology (Shanghai) Co., Ltd. was established in September 2014 and is located in Pudong Software Park, China (Shanghai) Pilot Free Trade Zone. The company is committed to the development of high-reliability, cost-effective RF front-end integrated circuit chips, the introduction of RF devices out of the box (P&P), to provide customers with the most optimized solutions. The products are mainly used in WLAN wireless access, mobile phone and terminal WIFI connection, intelligent IoT terminal, 5GNR and other related fields.


康希通信亮相MWC，发布全新射频前端系列芯片——全球领先的GaAs/ CMOS 高线性射频芯片设计技术

2019-06-27 10:39:37

康希通信亮相MWC，发布全新射频前端系列芯片——全球领先的GaAs/ CMOS 高线性射频芯片设计技术_物联网新闻_新闻中心_RFID世界网
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摘要：随着2019#MWC上海盛大开幕，首次亮相MWC的中国射频芯片领域领先供应商康希通信科技(上海)有限公司(以下简称“康希通信”)宣布将发布全新的5G微基站(sub 6GHz)射频功率放大器/前端芯片系列、新一代WIFI6全集成射频前端芯片等升级产品，助力终端拥有更加卓越的射频表现。

中国上海(2019年06月26日)- 随着2019#MWC上海盛大开幕，首次亮相MWC的中国射频芯片领域领先供应商康希通信科技(上海)有限公司(以下简称“康希通信”)宣布将发布全新的5G微基站(sub 6GHz)射频功率放大器/前端芯片系列、新一代WIFI6全集成射频前端芯片等升级产品，助力终端拥有更加卓越的射频表现。

康希通信拥有全套GaAs、SOI、CMOS等射频芯片设计技术，专注于研发WIFI、5G 、IoT等各种射频前端集成电路，主要应用于无线接入WIFI、手机WIFI、5G及物联网等领域。其团队一直致力于高线性射频前端芯片的研发设计，拥有业界少有的高线性纯CMOS射频前端技术，并开创性地采用DeltaRF架构，设计出高性能WLAN/5G微基站射频前端芯片。

康希通信首席技术官赵奂表示：“当代高线性度射频前端芯片的挑战在于对射频前端模组FEM近乎极致的线性度要求，零容忍的DEVM底噪，以及在实际应用中任何微小因素对DEVM的影响”。而康希通信作为亚洲技术领先的研发团队，已经成功克服技术难点，研发出性能比肩美商的WIFI FEM产品。

5G时代下，对射频前端芯片提出了更高的要求。全球射频功放市场占有率有90%以上被Skyworks和Qorvo两大巨头占据。随着由康希通信生产的国内首颗5G NR 射频前端芯片样品在中国移动正式测试验证，意味着中国将以强有力的射频前端芯片竞争能力加入国际市场，改变美商独占鳌头的格局。

针对5GNR与WIFI6射频前端芯片的应用及发展趋势，康希通信市场应用工程副总裁虞强提出，“5G宏基站+5G微基站+ WIFI构成的5G时代网络拓扑架构，需要高性能、高可靠性、低成本的射频前端芯片解决方案，才可以实现能支持百亿级无线器件的无缝网络运行。而康希通信可以提供完备的WLAN/5GNR 领域产品组合。”

中移物联网有限公司数字化产品部总经理罗健作为嘉宾出席了康希通信2019新品发布会，并发表了《携手共进，迈入万物智联新时代》的主题演讲。双方在发布会上签署了战略合作协议，宣布将共同构建产业合作新生态，在WIFI、智能硬件与连接、5G等领域展开深入合作，共同推动物联网产业链相关产品的广泛应用。

康希通信总经理彭平博士表示：“康希通信目前拥有全球领先的GaAs/ CMOS 高线性射频芯片设计技术，不仅仅证明了我们团队的研发实力，更重要的是体现了国产射频芯片在无线应用上的国际竞争力。”

发布会上，康希通信发布的5GNR 微基站射频功率放大器芯片 -- KCT56228H是其中备受关注的焦点。相对于传统微基站射频功率放大器，KCT56228H采用全新的DeltaRF架构，能有效降低射频功率放大器芯片的成本。该款产品也是康希通信与中移物联网合作战略中的核心产品之一，备受客户青睐。

值得一提的是，在此次亮相的新品中包括了WIFI6 射频前端芯片 – KCT8539S/KCT8239S，该系列芯片采用康希通信特有的可靠性设计方法，达到业界领先的可靠性检验标准，分别为国内最先实现WIFI6协议标准的5GHz/2.4GHz射频前端芯片，实力领衔射频前端中国“芯”升级。

当前，康希通信拥有完善的WLAN 产品和5G产品的布局与规划，通过不断发展和优化，为客户提供高性能，小封装，高效率，低成本的5G射频芯片方案。未来随着智能家居、智能办公、智能公用设施设备和用例不断发展壮大，康希通信将不断完善物联网市场的产品布局，在“万网互联”风口迎风而上。

康希通信科技(上海)有限公司成立于2014年9月，位于中国(上海)自由贸易试验区浦东软件园。公司致力于研发高可靠性、高性价比的射频前端集成电路芯片，推出射频器件即装即用(P&P)，为客户提供最优化的解决方案。产品主要应用于WLAN无线接入、手机与终端WIFI连接、智能物联终端、5GNR等相关领域。

Actually 45%of China Semiconductor import comes from memory sector, and Samsung and Hynix controls 80% of memory market in the world.
In order to break into memory sector, China has to scale down the Korean player

China ‘has decided not to fan the flames on supercomputing rivalry’ amid US tensions

• According to the Top500 list published last week, the US has retained its top position as the producer of the fastest supercomputers in the world

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Chinese decision makers decided to withhold the country’s newest Shuguang supercomputers from the latest supercomputing contest, even though they operate more than 50 per cent faster than the best current US machines, as China does not want to fan the flames of existing trade tensions, said the sources, who declined to be named as the information is private.

According to the Top500 list published last week, the US has retained its top position as the producer of the fastest supercomputers in the world. China, which has not introduced any new machines in recent months, is in second place. The Top500 list is released twice a year, once in June and again in November.

The newest Shuguang supercomputers, currently located at the computer network information Centre of the Chinese Academy of Sciences (CAS) in Beijing, are capable of performing more than 200 petaflops. A petaflop refers to one quadrillion (or a million billion) calculations per second.

The Shuguang supercomputers’ abilities far exceed the US leaders in the chart, Summit and Sierra, two IBM-built supercomputers that delivered a record 148.6 petaflops and 94.6 petaflops in the June contest respectively, said the people.

The US decision to block the five Chinese supercomputing companies will not have a “decisive impact” as domestic players, according to a report on Tuesday by the Science and Technology Daily, the official newspaper of China’s Ministry of Science and Technology.

That’s because they are already capable of producing key components, including CPUs for the supercomputers, unassisted, the report said.

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China ‘has decided not to fan the flames on supercomputing rivalry’ amid US tensions

• According to the Top500 list published last week, the US has retained its top position as the producer of the fastest supercomputers in the world

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Chinese decision makers decided to withhold the country’s newest Shuguang supercomputers from the latest supercomputing contest, even though they operate more than 50 per cent faster than the best current US machines, as China does not want to fan the flames of existing trade tensions, said the sources, who declined to be named as the information is private.

According to the Top500 list published last week, the US has retained its top position as the producer of the fastest supercomputers in the world. China, which has not introduced any new machines in recent months, is in second place. The Top500 list is released twice a year, once in June and again in November.

The newest Shuguang supercomputers, currently located at the computer network information Centre of the Chinese Academy of Sciences (CAS) in Beijing, are capable of performing more than 200 petaflops. A petaflop refers to one quadrillion (or a million billion) calculations per second.

The Shuguang supercomputers’ abilities far exceed the US leaders in the chart, Summit and Sierra, two IBM-built supercomputers that delivered a record 148.6 petaflops and 94.6 petaflops in the June contest respectively, said the people.

The US decision to block the five Chinese supercomputing companies will not have a “decisive impact” as domestic players, according to a report on Tuesday by the Science and Technology Daily, the official newspaper of China’s Ministry of Science and Technology.

That’s because they are already capable of producing key components, including CPUs for the supercomputers, unassisted, the report said.

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That was what I suspected. Exhibiting a more powerful supercomputer will be seen by Trump as being rude on the part of China just as the way he sees Made-In-China 2025, something which he personally admitted by his own words in front of the news reporters.