Trade War with China

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CMP

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I think that was primarily by virtue of having the largest population. But being able to support such a large population in it of itself was reflective of overall technological and economic cientific advancement (in the pre industrial era). Unfortunately, I think some historians believe that the advancements in agriculture and the food surpluses and large population were contributing factors leading to "great divergence," which resulted in the rise of the West.

Well, they're wrong. Great divergence was caused by first mover's advantage in industrialization 1.0
 

Red Moon

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So already one million smartphones shipped with new OS in the wild? Only in mainland China or in the entire world? Was it sideloaded or what? Wouldn't more consumers have talked about this if it was this many phones with the new OS already out the door? I thought based on the WuKong movie it wasn't coming until 9/22/2019.
For testing!
 

SteelBird

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Trump said he had a phone call with Xi and will have a meeting at G20. Does this mean there will be a deal and end the trade war? I don't think so. at most there will be another truce like what it was at the last G20. The strategic pressure of the US on China will be a long, long time...


Trump says he and China’s Xi spoke, will have ‘extended meeting next week’ at G-20
President Donald Trump said Tuesday that he and Chinese President Xi Jinping “will be having an extended meeting next week at the G-20 in Japan.”

In a tweet, Trump said that he and Xi “had a very good telephone conversation,” and that “our respective teams will begin talks prior to our meeting.”
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broadsword

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Trump said he had a phone call with Xi and will have a meeting at G20. Does this mean there will be a deal and end the trade war? I don't think so. at most there will be another truce like what it was at the last G20. The strategic pressure of the US on China will be a long, long time...

I think at the most optimistic, there will be no tariffs on the remainder of China's exports to the US that Trump threatened to impose.
 

AssassinsMace

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Right at the beginning the female host has a problem with what the guest says is simply what Trump is doing. Trump takes glee claiming he wiped out 150% of China's economy since he's taken office but she takes offense at the suggestion that it's all about the US wanting to stay number one. If any Chinese official publicly said that they're out to destroy the US, Americans would see that as an act of war in itself.


If all the lies about trade they say were true, no American would be hurting in Trump's trade war. It would be relief not pressure and worry. For a President that says he hates polls, polls are the only gauge that leads Trump's moves. He got his greatest poll numbers on the economy over a month ago and he then slapped tariffs on China because he thought he could play hardball and claim he's fine with no deal. And since then the stock market has gone flat and a whole slew of indicators are flashing "recession ahead". Now he wants talks with China even making threats if Xi doesn't show at the G20 summit...? China should be making Trump hurt not saving his butt so he can spin positive things. If China wants to put the nail in the coffin of the likes of Navarro, Bannon, Pillsbury, etc. after the Trump era, make them hurt by proving them wrong and that's not playing middle of road with the likes of Trump. Trade is so full of lies it's better to just start over and horse trade on every point. "If you want this, what are you going to give me for it? If you don't give this, they you don't get that"! It's the US that will be against it because they want a deal that only is in the US's favor. Remember the lie that China doesn't buy American? Today the truth comes out that it's the US that prevents China from buying American.
 
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Jono

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Exactly! the big 3 auto companies in Detroit got bailed out by the federal government. That was some major cash pumped into private companies by the federal government.

2008, some US banks are too big to fail.
thus massive US federal funds for bail out.
 

Tyler

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I think at the most optimistic, there will be no tariffs on the remainder of China's exports to the US that Trump threatened to impose.

The clown needs to remove all unfair sanctions against Chinese entities before the trade talks can even resume.
 

Lnk111229

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Lot more than GM. Starbucks, Haagen Daz, Nike, Under Armour, MacDonalds, KFC, all that crap should go. They don't bring anything of value to China but take Chinese money. It will be up to Beijing when to use this card.
Not only in China but also all over Asian or any country don't have enough experience to handling. Those company use big money, reputation to basically destroyed small, local business. Then when they became only and biggest they manipulation the poor country market. Import cheap material and use cheap labor to exploit customer money. And at the end they can report anything they want so they can lower their tax or even don't have to pay tax. Just like Coca Cola in Vietnam, they doing business over twenty year but don't pay single money of tax because they don't have profit,lol. I don't know it possible do business over two decades but don't have profit. I think China don't need ban those company just launch investigation on tax, environment, worker insurance etc.
 
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