Trade War with China

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Just4Fun

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Trump's ez election win on Mexico will give him the reelection. immigration is the #1 issue according to many polls. Looks like China will have to hold out for 5+ years now.

5+ years? You kind of underestimate the complicity and difficulty of this war we are fighting now. It's going to be a Protracted War. And it's going to be a war on-again, off-again, talking-again and fighting-again.

But no one should underestimate Chinese's determination and persistence to fight for the cause of themselves and their future generations.

We are ready to fight a protracted war with the US for as long as it takes, until we win.

We now are just doing our own jobs to get our house in order. Some time around 2025, something very significant in world financial circle will happen. China will open its capital market to foreign investors to internationalize RMB at that time. China will, maybe, maybe, I say maybe here because it is my guess, use Shanghai International Energy Exchange (SIEE) model to hook RMB with gold to facilitate RMB internationalization. From that time and on, we'll see Yankee's dirty dollar is being strangled and slaughtered. After the dollar is gone, I don't know what is going to happen to the US.

P.S. the SIEE model is that the foreign investor can take his investment profit out from China in either RMB or gold by his preference, but his investment principal can be taken out from China only in the currency he brought into China, which, by law, is RMB.

My advice to TW Green-toads: You can hate CCP, but don't hate your own money and gold. You can love the US, but don't love its toilet paper greenbacks.
 

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Hi, is there anything wrong with this chart?

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*1. What is the time frame requirement from the time Google comes out with a new version of Android, to the time Google are required to provide the corresponding AOSP version?

I remember the Free Software Foundation (who own the Linux kernal copyright) were getting annoyed at Google because they were slow at releasing AOSP. I don't know what the situation is currently however.

And looking at the chart, the Free Software Foundation is a non-profit based in the USA, and theoretically subject to US sanctions laws.

But if it ever came down to that, would the Free Software Foundation transfer ownership of the Linux copyright to an non-US entity?

And even if it did so, would it have more than 25% US content? Based on this old 2012 analysis and what has probably happened since, I think it is probably a yes. Although we won't know until someone crunches the numbers.

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Tam

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I remember the Free Software Foundation (who own the Linux kernal copyright) were getting annoyed at Google because they were slow at releasing AOSP. I don't know what the situation is currently however.

And looking at the chart, the Free Software Foundation is a non-profit based in the USA, and theoretically subject to US sanctions laws.

But if it ever came down to that, would the Free Software Foundation transfer ownership of the Linux copyright to an non-US entity?

And even if it did so, would it have more than 25% US content? Based on this old 2012 analysis and what has probably happened since, I think it is probably a yes. Although we won't know until someone crunches the numbers.

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You don't need copyright. You are free to use it. You can't enforce it anyway in a Chinese court.
 
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US President Donald Trump ‘perfectly happy’ to impose more tariffs on Chinese goods if talks fail to progress, Steven Mnuchin says
  • US treasury secretary puts ball back in Beijing’s court, saying Washington prepared to ‘move forward’ as long as China accepts its terms
  • Official tweeted earlier about ‘candid’ trade discussion with Yi Gang, head of China’s central bank
Updated: 6:48pm, 9 Jun, 2019
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US President Donald Trump has no qualms about introducing more tariffs on Chinese imports if no progress is made on the stalled negotiations when he meets Chinese President Xi Jinping later this month, US Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin said on Sunday.

Speaking to CNBC at the end of the G20 Finance Ministers and Central Bank Governors Meeting in Fukuoka, Japan, the official suggested the ball was now firmly back in Beijing’s court.

“If China wants to move forward with the deal, we’re prepared to move forward on the terms we’ve done,” he said.

“If China doesn’t want to move forward, then President Trump is perfectly happy to move forward with tariffs to rebalance the relationship.”

Mnuchin said earlier on Twitter that he had had a “candid” discussion about trade with China’s central bank governor Yi Gang on the sidelines of the finance summit. That was the first face-to-face meeting of senior officials from the US and China since trade negotiations faltered last month.

“Had constructive meeting with PBOC [People’s Bank of China] Governor Yi Gang, during which we had a candid discussion on trade issues,” he said in a tweet alongside a photograph of the two men shaking hands.

The PBOC later published a short notice on its website saying the two officials exchanged views on global financial conditions, G20 affairs and topics of mutual concern.

Mnuchin said on Saturday that his meeting with Yi would cover only routine trade issues unrelated to the stalled negotiations.

The “next important meeting” on that matter would not happen until Trump and Xi got together at the G20 leaders summit in Osaka on June 28-29, he said.

Also on Saturday, the treasury secretary, who together with US Trade Representative Robert Lighthizer has led the US side in its trade war negotiations with China, said an agreement to resolve the dispute was 90 per cent complete and that the “US is prepared to negotiate to reach a historic deal”.

If China wanted to resume the negotiations from where the two sides had left off in early May, the US was ready to engage, he said.

In the meantime, the US trade representative’s office is reviewing Trump’s plan to extend punitive tariffs to the
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worth of Chinese goods that have so far escaped such duties.
The president earlier delivered on his threat to more than double the tariffs on US$200 billion worth of imports from China to 25 per cent, and has effectively banned US companies from selling components and software to Chinese telecoms giant Huawei.

Mnuchin said earlier that the United States wanted free, fair and balanced trade with China as a way to close the huge trading gap between the two countries.

Finance chiefs at the G20 meeting are expected later on Sunday to adopt a communique saying trade and geopolitical tensions had “
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The communique will say also that the G20 leaders “will continue to address these risks and stand ready to take further action”, and that the finance chiefs “reaffirm our leaders’ conclusion on trade at the Buenos Aires summit”, the report said.

However, the final version of the statement would not include an earlier passage that said there was a “pressing need” to resolve the tensions.
 

CMP

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US just delayed China tariffs to after G20

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But what difference does it make?

Unless Trump backs down at G20, nothing will change. He's just going about wondering if China and Xi will change mind. No, it won't happen. Why doesn't Trump get it?

because he’s a pre-dementia born billionaire baby boomer surrounded by con artists, warmongers, and snake oil salesmen
 

CMP

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There should never be a deal. The Americans can be counted on to renege like they did on Iran, Paris accords, and countless others.

now I read
US President Donald Trump ‘perfectly happy’ to impose more tariffs on Chinese goods if talks fail to progress, Steven Mnuchin says
  • US treasury secretary puts ball back in Beijing’s court, saying Washington prepared to ‘move forward’ as long as China accepts its terms
  • Official tweeted earlier about ‘candid’ trade discussion with Yi Gang, head of China’s central bank
Updated: 6:48pm, 9 Jun, 2019
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Cypher

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After Trump said he wouldn't sign a 50-50 deal with China, I don't even know if Xi will meet him in G20. Chinese people are ultra-sensitive to any unfair treaty, Xi will face tremendous pressure from the public if he dares to express any goodwill during the talk with Trump, and the general diplomacy approach of the Chinese government is never about "dick waving contest", so maybe the best solution is to shut down the meeting which is actually good for both sides, however I don't think Trump will get the signal...
 
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